On 3/1/09 23:40, Nelson B Bolyard wrote:
Ian G wrote, On 2009-01-03 06:22:
Good question!

On 3/1/09 06:43, Kyle Hamilton wrote:

The only thing that we can do is make sure that the user has as much
(relevant) information as possible.

So what is the relevant info?

My list of relevant info:

    the name of the CA [1]
    the name that the CA signs
    the previous acceptance status of the cert
       (e.g., number of visits<==>  petnames).
    the absence of the above
       (e.g., we are in OFF mode)

My list of irrelevant info:

    the cert details
    the warnings
    the clicks
    the status of the connection (e.g., padlock)

All these are too complex for users.

There's a great deal of anecdotal evidence (and some serious studies)
that suggest that anything that goes on outside of the "content" area
of the browser, and that does not actively engage the user, will be
ignored by a huge percentage of users.  There are many users who,
anecdotal evidence shows, ignore all "chrome" completely and pay no
attention to anything except "content".  Because of the fact that good
phishers always reproduce the desired content EXACTLY, users who ignore
chrome and only examine content will ALWAYS be victims to phishers
UNLESS we interrupt their view of the "content" with something that they
must deal with when the site's credentials are "phishy".   That's why
warnings and clicks are different than all the other stuff you describe above.


OK, so some discussion on how to display the info. Bringing the two together, the info that is considered relevant might be pasted over the entire page. Paste info for "good connections" over the entire page as a shadow display, with all there in big letters, and allow it to fade away after 2-3 seconds. Pink or mild yellow?

Paste info for "bad connections" over the entire page, and leave it there until a click is done? Make it bright red, or grey, make it flash, I don't know...

The point being if the "chrome" is ignored, we go where it isn't ignored? (I really liked the addition of the top and bottom bars in light grey, within the content part.) If it is important, we can interrupt the user's info. If it isn't important enough for that, then it isn't important.

The question here is more about important info. What to do with it is interesting.

iang
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