On 11/09/2008 04:25 PM, Ian G:
Well, all the arguments have been heard on this already, and positions are fairly entrenched. It seems futile to have the debate over and over, and I for one would like to point out that it is uncomfortable to treat it like a political campaign.
Well, Kyle stated that he doesn't care who I am nor which interests I represent. This was a short statement about what I did and which interests I represent (including obviously my personal preference) :-)
Perhaps I should have added, that I'm coming from the same grass-root camp as Kyle and others. WE have/had some very similar goals... however I actually did something in order to establish an alternative. I was the thriving "force" behind the establishing of a legitimate authority where the commercial aspects aren't the primary goal and where certification isn't bound to the financial capabilities of the subscriber.
For some reason, advocates like Kyle are opponents to us today and needless to mention that the hard-core CAcert crowd isn't happy with what we do and achieved either - first we were ignored, then publicly laughed at, then publicly decried. Go figure... Today I'm afraid that for those I don't have much sympathy left either and continue to serve those who appreciate it.
Perhaps a vote?
Vote on what? It's a process which has started a while ago. It's usually not discussed here, but by the UI designers and other forums.
It seems that Eddy and Nelson are in the anti-self-signed-certs camp, and I would join Kyle in the pro-self-signed-certs camp.
I think that's way too simple...
Do others have strong-enough feelings? I'm searching for a way here to show one side or the other which way the wind is blowing.
You don't have to search a lot....just visit Paypal and look at your browser. That's the way the wind is blowing. And if regular certificates are further circumvented and devalued, this is what you'll be left with in the end. Think about it!
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