OK, I was too flippant, but I'm serious about wanting an alternative
to https, something that means security not good enough for financial
transactions, but OK for your private home router/server.

Nelson B Bolyard wrote, On 2008-10-20 15:07:
> Ian G wrote, On 2008-10-20 13:28:

>> (e.g., we do agree that we'd like to write something that says "for
>> high value commerce, use XXXX" ... except we don't know what XXXX is.)
> 
> I keep wondering about that.  Lots of people seem to agree that they want
> some kind of half-vast SSL, providing some encryption, but no assurance
> that the party to whom they're connected is who they intended it to be.
> No protection against MITM, just a warm fuzzy feeling that "well, at least
> we're using encryption".  I think the term "security theater" applies.
> 
> How do we give them that in a way that clearly distinguishes between that
> and real authenticated connections?  I think there are (at least) two parts
> to the puzzle:
> 
> a) some way to convey to the browser that the EXPECTED amount of security
> is low, so the browser won't try to impose all the usual high security
> requirements on the connection (e.g. not impose strong authentication
> requiremetns) and hence won't show any warnings.  I'm thinking we need an
> alterantive to https for this.

serious alternatives to https wanted.

> b) some unmistakeable blatantly obvious way to show the user that this
> site is not using security that's good enough for banking but, 

Serious chrome ideas wanted.

> With such an alternative to regular https, we could raise the bar on https
> certs (stop allowing overrides) while still offering an alternative for
> those who want it.
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