On Wednesday 24 September 2008 01:30:15 Paul Hoffman wrote:
> At 4:23 PM -0700 9/23/08, Nelson B Bolyard wrote:
<snip>
> >There also products today that cannot handle SHA-2 hashes, and that limit
> >RSA key/signature sizes to 2k bits.  I would not advise any CA to limit
> >itself to those limits just for those few straggling products.

The problem for CAs is...
If potential customers for certificates find out that CA 1's certificates work 
with "those few straggling products", but CA 2's certificates don't, whose 
certificates do you think they're more likely to buy (assuming the prices are 
not wildly different)?

> >Much as 
> >I don't like to say it, the big question is: does MSIE support it?
> >If IE and FF both support SHA-2, then go for it.  If users say "I have to
> >switch away from <favorite browser> to MSIE to shop at site xxx.com",
> >you can be sure that other products will play catch-up, quickly.
>
> I think it is the opposite. Last I heard, MSIE didn't support
> RSA-with-SHA256 on XP but did on Vista. I heard conflicting stories
> about Microsoft's intention to fix that in an XP upgrade. Others on
> this list certainly know more about this than I do (and may even be
> able to test it).

FYI, the "Overview of Windows XP Service Pack 3" document available at...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=68C48DAD-BC34-40BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en
...says that Windows XP Service Pack 3...
"Implements and supports the SHA2 hashing algorithms (SHA256, SHA384, and 
SHA512) in X.509 certificate validation. This has been added to the crypto 
module rsaenh.dll.
XP SP2 crypto modules Rsaenh.dll/Dssenh.dll/Fips.sys had been certified 
according to FIPS 140-1 specifications. The Federal Information Processing 
Standard (FIPS) 140-1 standard has been replaced by FIPS 140-2, and these 
modules have been validated and certified according to this standard. For 
more information, see the Microsoft Kernel Mode Cryptographic Module."

Here's the FIPS 140-2 cert:
http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/documents/140-1/140val-all.htm#997

Of course, Windows XP/SP1/SP2 and Windows 2000 still don't support anything 
stronger than SHA-1, so we're still stuck with using RSA-with-SHA1 in order 
to maintain compatibility with IE5/6/7 on those platforms.

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