Anders,

I partially agree with you. When you buy a new token or smartcard, you
download an installer application that registry the CSP dll into your
system, so Windows can magically resolve digital certificate / storage
association.

What is missing in PKCS#11 based systems is user friendly installing
application (for Windows and Linux systems). If we had installers that
automatically load hardware modules to Mozilla Firefox, preventing end-users
from select PKCS#11 dll etc, etc, we could have something very likely
Windows Cryptography usability.

Regards,

Bruno.

 
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-----Mensagem original-----
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Anders
Rundgren
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 12 de setembro de 2007 15:25
Para: Jean-Marc Desperrier
Cc: dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org
Assunto: PKCS #11 sucks. Re: Fedora Crypto Consolidation

A cryptographic subsysten based on C and not having a registration
facility is not a solution for the 21st century.
AR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean-Marc Desperrier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.tech.crypto
To: <dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 15:22
Subject: Re: Fedora Crypto Consolidation


Arshad Noor wrote:
> Given that the Fedora community is embarking on an effort
> to consolidate crypto keystores and libraries, it would
> make sense to take the needs of the Java community also
> into consideration in the design and implementation.
> [...]
> What would be ideal is for JSS to evolve into becoming
> just another pluggable JCE Provider and hide the access
> to the consolidated Fedora crypto keystore/library
> behind that interface.  You will then be doing two
> communities a great service.

I don't believe this is the best option. Since java 1.5, there is a 
pkcs#11 base JCE included by default in the SUN JVM. It works with NSS, 
if you configure correctly some compatibility options :
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/security/p11guide.html#NS
S

So the best choice would be to rely on that instead, and see if it's 
possible to have the sun java rpm package preconfigured correctly to use 
it and to make it the default JCE.


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