On 1/23/06, Nelson B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AFAIK, *NONE* of the groups named above has *EVER* contacted the
> developers of mozilla's crypto code (NSS and PSM) about this.
> Just last month, we learned about the South Korean government's efforts,
> not from that government, but from some South Korean users (IINM).
>
> I strongly suspect that these groups have never approached ANY browser
> vendor.  I doubt they approached Microsoft either.  Many of these groups
> have written their own ActiveX controls for MSIE, but have stopped short
> of writing plugins/extensions for mozilla browsers.
>
> If the browser vendors are unaware of those efforts, it is because those
> groups did not inform the vendors.  IMO, it's not very bright for those
> groups to design a plan that depends on integration with certain browser
> products, and then never initiate the integration with those products.
>
> I think many of those governments are accustomed to their citizens
> following every move they make, and they forget that browser vendors
> in other countries aren't subject to them and don't monitor them.
>
> AFAIK, today, each of those groups named above have designed their own
> solution that is not interoperable with any of the others.  IMO, there's
> no way that mozilla is going to implement 15 different countries' ideas
> of how to do "web signing".  Perhaps they should get together and start
> to form a true standard regarding this.  But they shouldn't expect that
> browser vendors (whom they've never contacted) will do that for them, IMO.
>
> If one of them wants to *contribute* open source to mozilla, such a
> contribution would be seriously considered, I think.

The problem is that international standards are formalized by the ITU,
and this would be in the X.500 or X.600 series of documents.  As far
as I can tell, no such standard exists.  I'm very leery of
implementing any web-signing system until such a standard exists.

Incidentally, I'm told that USSI requires a non-disclosure agreement
to get a look at the specifications -- which makes it completely
unsuitable as a strong-authentication protocol that can be implemented
by the layman and forged by the open-source model.

-Kyle H
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