> What does "3rd party project" mean in this case? It's not clear to me how you > could do a CEF wrapper externally without forking and removing glutin > entirely.
Why do we need glutin for CEF? If I'm not mistaken, the only part of glutin that is useful in this case is creating the GL buffer, right? And that's not hard to do manually. So CEF could live in another project. Use servo as a dependency. Like we did for servoshell (where we don't rely on Glutin). All we need to do is 1) create the gl buffer, 2) implement a simple event loop, 3) forward the events as needed. We don't need glutin for that. I might be missing something though. Let me know. > What is the full set of features we're missing in upstream glutin? Reparenting. Logo support. > And can we uplift them? Likely. But that requires some work (logo support should be easy). My reasoning is because of 1) CEF is not maintained, 2) CEF could be designed better (no dependency on glutin), 3) we need to unfork glutin; dropping CEF would make our life easier. In the future, if anyone is interesting in maintaining CEF, they can revive the old code (using glutin or not, and as part of servo/ports or not). Embedding is possible today, on Desktop and mobile, but not via CEF. If we decide that embedding *via CEF* is important now, then I'm happy to try to upstream the reparenting code. This will just delay unforking glutin more. That's it. _______________________________________________ dev-servo mailing list dev-servo@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-servo