Now that this is being more openly discussed, can someone post a copy of
the letter here? While redacting whatever PII

On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 14:05 Watson Ladd <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 5:33 AM 'Bruce Morton' via
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > Thanks for passing on the customer email, we’re following up directly
> there, and as always, we’d recommend that customers directly reach out to
> their account team to discuss their specific needs.
> >
> > That said, we think it would be helpful to share the different
> certificate licensing models we offer and the details of each. Entrust
> broadly offers two models for certificate purchase. The handling of active
> certificates, including revocation, differs based on the model chosen by
> the customer.
> >
> > The first model is what we call “unit based” and is what most would
> consider the historically traditional approach for certificate offers,
> where a customer purchases a certificate for a specific term, that
> certificate is paid for up front, and their license is valid through the
> expiration date of the certificate. After initial issuance only limited
> changes are permitted to the details of the certificate.
> >
> > The second model is what we call “subscription” or “pooling”, and this
> approach allows a customer to have up to a pre-defined number of
> certificates issued and active at any given time during the period of the
> subscription. This approach allows customers the flexibility to issue and
> change certificates as often as necessary as their needs change, including,
> for example, revoking a no-longer needed certificate and issuing a new one
> with new organization information or domains, with no additional charges.
> At the time of renewal, customers can increase or decrease the number of
> certificates that are available under their subscription. If at any time a
> customer chooses to fully stop their subscription, then the license period
> ends, and under the terms of the agreement we reserve the right to revoke
> any unexpired certificates.
> >
> > So, depending on the model selected by the customer up front, the
> approach differs on how unexpired certificates are handled upon
> termination, and both are addressed in our Certificate and Signing Services
> Terms of Use. In addition, it is common that terms may be custom
> negotiated, so the best course of action, for any individual customer with
> questions, is to contact their account representatives directly to discuss.
> >
> > We hope this provides some more context to the question here on what our
> standard options and practices are. And we have an extensive customer
> communications and outreach program underway to ensure that customers
> understand their options and to provide uninterrupted support for their
> publicly trusted TLS certificates.
>
> Let me get this straight: you will not revoke on time when presented
> with a BR violation, making the excuse customers will be
> inconvenienced, run criticial systems yadda yadda. You will revoke
> gratuitously come contract renewal time, and none of the reasons
> listed before matter.
>
> Sincerely,
> Watson Ladd
>
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