On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 4:00 PM Andrew Ayer via dev-security-policy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 12:50:43 -0600
> Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I've been asked if the section 5.1.1 restrictions on SHA-1 issuance
> > apply to timestamping CAs. Specifically, does Mozilla policy apply to
> > the issuance of a SHA-1 CA certificate asserting only the
> > timestamping EKU and chaining to a root in our program? Because this
> > certificate is not in scope for our policy as defined in section 1.1,
> > I do not believe that this would be a violation of the policy. And
> > because the CA would be in control of the entire contents of the
> > certificate, I also do not believe that this action would create an
> > unacceptable risk.
>
> It was the intent of section 5.1.1 to apply to such certificates, and
> the wording in 5.1.1, which talks about "CAs" signing "SHA-1 hashes"
> means that 5.1.1 applies even when the apparent signed data isn't a
> certificate in scope of Mozilla policy.  This is necessary because the
> problem with hash collisions is that while the data the CA thinks it's
> signing might not be a certificate in scope of Mozilla policy, the hash
> might collide with a certificate that *is* in scope.
>

I agree with Andrew - this was very much the intent. This is similar to the
advice given in a recent reply [1], is consistent with the past discussion
regarding OCSP signers, which GlobalSign had also brought up [2][3], which
past CAs have regarded as incidents [4][5], and which lead to the exception
Andrew mentions here.

It was the intent of the policy that this be prohibited, except as noted.
[7]

[1]
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/vDhKG7T6sCM/vtGubR0pBwAJ
[2]
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/NthdT8sOQQ0/q37006A6AAAJ
[3]
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/aCJQ5JkYcVw/diq_e0_kAQAJ
[4]
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/paXc44rj5PU/lfydcQ_HAgAJ
[5]
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/6BdFdNQKJoY/NY_owWajAAAJ
[6]
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/ScoboGpN4w4/GxUCmGWuBgAJ
[7]
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/wVhRt63bTpU/FxxNlYzxCQAJ
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