On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:05 AM Nick Pope via dev-security-policy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I am asking that we get a clear statement of what you would like to see
> from EU audits based on ETSI standards and so that we (European Auditors
> and ETSI) can come back with a considered response on how we can meet you
> concerns.  Rather than saying what a particular individual person thinks,
> we would like to understand what your concerns are in as much detail as
> possible against what is specified as the current requirements for EU
> audits.    We can then make a considered joint response to your concerns to
> ensure that ETSI audits meet your needs in a way works for the existing
> European environment.
>
> I note your concerns about transparency and ensuring that the requirements
> certificate profile are met.  If you can put these concerns down in detail,
> along with any other issue you have, as a joint document from the root
> stores, we can provide a coordinated response on how we can address your
> concerns.
>
> If you see this as "basics that are already required" rather than "wish
> list" fine, again just provide us with a clear set requirements so that we
> can properly respond.


I really don’t see how this is a productive response. It really is rather
simple - do you believe auditors should be assessing compliance with EN 319
412-* under the existing standards?

If yes, TUVIT has demonstrated a pattern of failing to do so, and it’s
appropriate to discuss what next steps are appropriate to minimize the risk
from such repeated failures - such as no longer accepting.

If not, then ETSI audits are quite literally missing one of the most basic
expectations, and their acceptance should be immediately stopped until such
a time as they do.

I fail to see how there’s any other possible response there; it really is
cut and dry like that.
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