On 06/11/2017 22:44, Jeff Gilbert wrote:
> Price matters, since every dollar we spend chasing ECC would be a
> dollar we can't allocate towards perf improvements, hardware refresh
> rate, or simply more machines for any build clusters we may want.

And every day our developers or IT staff waste chasing apparently random
issues is a waste of both money and time.

> The paper linked above addresses massive compute clusters, which seems
> to have limited implications for our use-cases.

The clusters are 6000 and 8500 nodes respectively, quite small by
today's standards. How many developers do we have? Hundreds for sure, it
could be a thousand looking at our current headcount so we're in the
same ballpark.

> Nearly every machine we do development on does not currently use ECC.
> I don't see why that should change now.

Not true. The current Xeon E5-based ThinkStation P710 available from
Service Now has ECC memory and so did the previous models in the last
five years. Having a workstation available w/o ECC would actually be a
step backwards.

> To me, ECC for desktop compute
> workloads crosses the line into jumping at shadows, since "restart
> your machine slightly more often than otherwise" is not onerous.
Do you have data to prove that this is not an issue?

 Gabriele

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