On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Xidorn Quan <quanxunz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Jonas Sicking <jo...@sicking.cc> wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Xidorn Quan <quanxunz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Authors sometimes just want something usable. It doesn't matter if it
>>> is not stylable, or it doesn't fit in the UI. When they really need to
>>> start caring about such things, they can switch to use jQuery UI then.
>>
>> I think this is true for a *very* small number of authors. Small
>> enough that we should spend our time on more impactful things.
>>
>> Look at the tooling websites that we use within mozilla. bugzilla.m.o,
>> treeherder.m.o, wiki.m.o and MDN all care about a pleasant look and
>> feel.
>
> OK, let's look at bugzilla.m.o. It uses <select>, <input
> type="file/checkbox/radio"> without any special style on them. Do they
> look very bad within its context?
>
> Actually it seems to me, as we do not provide any decent method for
> styling things inside form controls, pushing people to mix normal form
> controls with jQuery UI components could be even worse for UI
> consistency.
>
>> Also remember that jQuery UI also works fine for websites that "just
>> wants something usable".
>
> It unnecessarily bloats the page. It requires the whole huge jQuery
> plus two additional jQuery UI files, which should have been completely
> avoidable for a page designed for modern browsers.

I'd really recommend talking to web developers rather than guessing at
their needs.

I hear *a lot* of webdevelopers complaining about the lack of ability
to style current controls. But don't take my word for it, do reach out
to developers, we have a developer relations team that I'm sure is
happy to help.

/ Jonas
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