Can we get a stopgap solution in the mean time?

How about this: If a sheriff comes across a checkin-needed bug without a
try push, _and_ the most-recent comment in the bug includes a try-chooser
string that the path author would have used if {s,}he had try access, the
sheriff can push to try on the author's behalf?


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Ed Morley <emor...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> Autoland should solve that use case :-)
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657828
>
>
> On 19 May 2014 22:01:25, Jonas Sicking wrote:
>
>> Try-from-bugzilla would be awesome!
>>
>> / Jonas
>>
>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Bobby Holley <bobbyhol...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (Reducing the thread scope for the followup)
>>>
>>> One issue I often run into is that the contributor doesn't have access to
>>> try, and pushing it on their behalf disrupts the rhythm of the other
>>> things
>>> I'm doing. If we go forward with this, can we also get some kind of
>>> sheriff-assisted try push flag? Something like try-needed?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Ryan VanderMeulen <
>>> rvandermeu...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  As many of you are aware, the sheriff team has been assisting with
>>>> landing
>>>> checkin-needed bugs for some time now. However, we've also had to deal
>>>> with
>>>> the fallout of a higher than average bustage frequency from them. As
>>>> much
>>>> as we enjoy shooting ourselves in the foot, our team has decided that we
>>>> needed to tweak our process a bit to avoid tree closures and wasted time
>>>> and energy.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, our team has decided that we will now require that a link to
>>>> a
>>>> recent Try run be provided when requesting checkin before we will land
>>>> the
>>>> patch. To be clear, this *ONLY* affects checkin-needed bugs where we're
>>>> assisting with the landing. We have no desire to police what other
>>>> developers do before pushing. As has always been the case, developers
>>>> are
>>>> expected to ensure that their patches have received adequate testing
>>>> prior
>>>> to pushing whether they are receiving our assistance or not.
>>>>
>>>> Our team is also not going to dictate which specific builds/tests are
>>>> required. We're not experts in your code and we'll defer to your
>>>> judgment
>>>> as to what counts as sufficient testing. As mentioned earlier today in
>>>> another post, if in doubt, we do have a set of general best practices
>>>> for
>>>> Try that can be used as a guide [1]. We just want to ensure that patches
>>>> have at least received some baseline level of testing before being
>>>> pushed
>>>> to production. We've been testing the water with this policy for the
>>>> past
>>>> couple weeks and have already seen a reduction in the number of backouts
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> For those of you mentoring bugs for new contributors, please also keep
>>>> this in mind in order to keep patches from being held up in landing. And
>>>> consider vouching for Level 1 commit access to further empower those
>>>> contributors!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -Ryan
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/How:To:Recommended_
>>>> Try_Practices
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