I've created a meta bug to track efforts to improve the UX for this use
case: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1286693

Please feel free to add suggestions there or in dependent bugs.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:30 AM, allassopraise . <allassopra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The suggestions for improving the way treeherder reports are good.
>
> Nevertheless, for now, I still would like some documentation or
> pointers on how to interpret what is there, but most especially how to
> know whether an error is due to the changeset that's been pushed.
>
> *Somebody* is obviously able to do it, as I can tell when a patch I've
> written gets pushed, then backed out due to results on treeherder.
>
> On 7/11/16, Jonathan Griffin <jgrif...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> > Yes, a clear Yes/No answer for Try pushes is something we'd like to be
> able
> > to report.
> >
> > Currently, interpreting Try results can be hard for a few reasons:
> >
> > 1 - intermittent test failures make it hard to separate failures your
> push
> > has caused vs pre-existing failures
> > 2 - people sometimes push to try from bad heads (like a mozilla-inbound
> > push that will eventually get backed out)
> > 3 - it's not always clear whether you should care about try failures of
> > Tier 2 jobs
> >
> > For 1, as you noted, we have started implementing automatic
> classification
> > in Treeherder. We're expanding this to cover more types of failures; see
> > bug 1241940. The goal is to have it able to identify upwards of 80% of
> > known failures automatically, which should make interpreting try results
> > considerably easier.
> >
> > For 2, making sure you push to try only from the current tip of m-c will
> > avoid this problem, or using MozReview's autoland to try, which will
> > automatically do the same thing.
> >
> > For 3, I think we should distinguish tiers better in Treeherder, and
> > include some info about tolerance for failures in the UI.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Nicolas B. Pierron <
> > nicolas.b.pier...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/10/2016 06:48 PM, allassopraise . wrote:
> >>
> >>> For example, I believe the orange and red links indicate an error, but
> >>> how do I know if they pertain to my push or not?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I have the same issue, and in many cases I feel clueless about the
> >> oranges
> >> & reds.  At the end I end-up pushing to inbound, even if I feel that I
> >> had
> >> a higher number of oranges / reds on try than I would expect to see on
> >> inbound.
> >>
> >> I see that we already have a classifier which automatically mark some of
> >> the intermittent, and if this tool were able to classify the remaining
> >> issue, this would be quite helpful.
> >>
> >> I guess, what I am missing with Try pushes, is a clear Yes/No answer.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nicolas B. Pierron
> >>
> >>
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> >
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