I implemented both of if these things very recently, so I dont think
they're relevant.  I will turn them off.


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On 8/4/25 18:10, Daniel van Vugt <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Thanks. I can see two potential problems so far:
>  
>  1. The 'variable-refresh-rate' experimental feature is enabled. It's not
>  mature and still buggy, but also probably has no effect in Xorg
>  sessions. Still, I recommend disabling it for now because it's known to
>  cause a number of bugs.
>  
>  2. You are using fractional scaling in Xorg. This is a custom Ubuntu
>  patch that is known to cause image clarity problems and performance
>  problems. To avoid these issues I recommend choosing a scaling factor
>  that is a multiple of 100%, or logging into a Wayland session if you
>  need fractional scaling.
>  
>  If those don't solve the problem then I have more ideas but they will
>  require more information which can be gathered by running:
>  
>    xrandr --verbose > xrandr.txt
>    sudo apt install drm-info
>    sudo drm_info > drminfo.txt
>  
>  and then please attach the resulting text files here.
>  
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>  report.
>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2119415
>  
>  Title:
>    Video configuration problems: results are destroying my eyes
>  
>  Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu:
>    Incomplete
>  
>  Bug description:
>    I've found that nvidia-settings is not supported in Ubuntu 25.04, at least 
> the settings are not saved.
>    Resolution and refresh rate are managed in Settings\Display but I find 
> playing games creates remarkable eye-strain which leads to blurred vision and 
> I fear other vision problems longer term.
>  
>    I've found multiple accounts of people running into this and returning
>    to Windows.  I don't see an alternative given the seriousness of my
>    vision problems.  I've uninstalled my games and have a dual boot setup
>    to support gaming, but the ENTIRE reasoning for this is protecting my
>    eyes from Ubuntu's video implementation.
>  
>    Here is one account of someone dealing with this problem:
>    
> https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/180fav0/linux_is_killing_my_eyes_to_the_point_im_back_on/
>  
>    Trying to keep up with Nvidia is quite the task, but given Nvidia's
>    place in the GPU market, it has to be done.
>  
>    Here are settings in nvidia-settings that are not supported in 
> Settings\Display I've tried fiddling with to reduce eye strain:
>    XScreen0\OpenGL Settings\Image Settings --> High Quality
>    XScreen0\Antialias Settings\ --> Enable FXAA
>    XScreen0\Antialias Settings\Anisotropic Filtering --> Override Application 
> Settings\16x
>    GPU0(Nvidia RTX4090)\DP-4(Samsung LS49AG95)\Controls\Color Space -->  
> YCbCr444  [does not change from RGB]
>  
>  
>    Root Cause:  beats me.  There are so many options and esoteric features 
> involved with GPUs and video performance, I don't have the background to try 
> to uncover what medically is going on, but it's clearly bad. This is a real 
> problem, and the consequences for Linux users are real.  Driving home last 
> night I found all street lights had a complex, somewhat pixelated haze around 
> them.
>  
>    Possible Approaches:
>    - Reach out to Nvidia.  They have the resources to dig into the medical 
> affects of poor video configurations. Perhaps they would fund an initiative 
> to support this work.
>  
>    - Review the research:
>  
>    ----here is research-----
>    Digital Eye Strain: A Comprehensive Review
>    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40123-022-00540-9
>  
>    Management of Digital Eye Strain
>    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cxo.12798
>  
>    Eye-related pain induced by visually demanding computer work
>    
> https://journals.lww.com/optvissci/fulltext/2012/04000/eye_related_pain_induced_by_visually_demanding.13.aspx
>  
>    Image Modification to Reduce Eye Strain
>    https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-88919-7_17
>    ---
>    ProblemType: Bug
>    ApportVersion: 2.32.0-0ubuntu5.3
>    Architecture: amd64
>    CasperMD5CheckResult: pass
>    CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
>    DisplayManager: gdm3
>    DistroRelease: Ubuntu 25.04
>    InstallationDate: Installed on 2025-04-13 (113 days ago)
>    InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS "Noble Numbat" - Release amd64 
> (20250215)
>    Package: gnome-shell 48.0-1ubuntu1
>    PackageArchitecture: amd64
>    ProcEnviron:
>     LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>     PATH=(custom, no user)
>     SHELL=/bin/bash
>     TERM=xterm-256color
>     XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set>
>    ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.14.0-27.27-generic 6.14.6
>    RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 48.1-1ubuntu3.1
>    Tags: plucky
>    Uname: Linux 6.14.0-27-generic x86_64
>    UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to plucky on 2025-07-27 (8 days ago)
>    UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sudo users
>    _MarkForUpload: True
>  
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Title:
  Video configuration problems: results are destroying my eyes

Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  I've found that nvidia-settings is not supported in Ubuntu 25.04, at least 
the settings are not saved.
  Resolution and refresh rate are managed in Settings\Display but I find 
playing games creates remarkable eye-strain which leads to blurred vision and I 
fear other vision problems longer term.

  I've found multiple accounts of people running into this and returning
  to Windows.  I don't see an alternative given the seriousness of my
  vision problems.  I've uninstalled my games and have a dual boot setup
  to support gaming, but the ENTIRE reasoning for this is protecting my
  eyes from Ubuntu's video implementation.

  Here is one account of someone dealing with this problem:
  
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/180fav0/linux_is_killing_my_eyes_to_the_point_im_back_on/

  Trying to keep up with Nvidia is quite the task, but given Nvidia's
  place in the GPU market, it has to be done.

  Here are settings in nvidia-settings that are not supported in 
Settings\Display I've tried fiddling with to reduce eye strain:
  XScreen0\OpenGL Settings\Image Settings --> High Quality
  XScreen0\Antialias Settings\ --> Enable FXAA
  XScreen0\Antialias Settings\Anisotropic Filtering --> Override Application 
Settings\16x
  GPU0(Nvidia RTX4090)\DP-4(Samsung LS49AG95)\Controls\Color Space -->  
YCbCr444  [does not change from RGB]

  
  Root Cause:  beats me.  There are so many options and esoteric features 
involved with GPUs and video performance, I don't have the background to try to 
uncover what medically is going on, but it's clearly bad. This is a real 
problem, and the consequences for Linux users are real.  Driving home last 
night I found all street lights had a complex, somewhat pixelated haze around 
them.  

  Possible Approaches:
  - Reach out to Nvidia.  They have the resources to dig into the medical 
affects of poor video configurations. Perhaps they would fund an initiative to 
support this work.

  - Review the research:

  ----here is research----- 
  Digital Eye Strain: A Comprehensive Review
  https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40123-022-00540-9

  Management of Digital Eye Strain
  https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cxo.12798

  Eye-related pain induced by visually demanding computer work
  
https://journals.lww.com/optvissci/fulltext/2012/04000/eye_related_pain_induced_by_visually_demanding.13.aspx
  

  Image Modification to Reduce Eye Strain
  https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-88919-7_17
  --- 
  ProblemType: Bug
  ApportVersion: 2.32.0-0ubuntu5.3
  Architecture: amd64
  CasperMD5CheckResult: pass
  CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
  DisplayManager: gdm3
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 25.04
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2025-04-13 (113 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS "Noble Numbat" - Release amd64 
(20250215)
  Package: gnome-shell 48.0-1ubuntu1
  PackageArchitecture: amd64
  ProcEnviron:
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   SHELL=/bin/bash
   TERM=xterm-256color
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set>
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.14.0-27.27-generic 6.14.6
  RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 48.1-1ubuntu3.1
  Tags: plucky
  Uname: Linux 6.14.0-27-generic x86_64
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to plucky on 2025-07-27 (8 days ago)
  UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sudo users
  _MarkForUpload: True

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