(In reply to Ben Shadwick from comment #403) > The Wine devs are so irrationally close-minded about this issue
OK, stop there before this descends into a flame-war. > citing of silly procedural issues as an excuse to avoid having > to incorporate fixes. Those "procedural issues" relate to code quality and cooperative functionality with other modules. Winepulse is not up to scratch. > It's always sad and frustrating to see open source projects be so > insensitive to the concerns of end-users, but when people go so far as to > contribute actual code changes and still be rejected out of hand, there's > just nothing to be done. I've been out of the loop for a while, but last time I was actively commenting on this bug Wine devs were planning an architectural change in the way audio drivers work. Even before that, they were hesitant to include ANY new audio drivers because the existing framework employs a lot of code duplication. > Situations like this are what cause a lot of projects to fork, which is the > worst way for things to work themselves out because it causes the community > to split their efforts. The only people to have successfully forked Wine are Codeweavers (Crossover Office et al) and that's only because they work closely with Wine devs. It's a huge project. Every bugfix is like a pharmaceutical drug: it may fix a problem, but will almost certainly have unforseen side-effects. One of my major objections to the existing Winepulse code is that it seems to completely ignore MIDI support. Even without the other hurdles to inclusion, an audio driver simply would not be considered if it will completely break applications that ask for MIDI. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371897 Title: Occasional sound drops in Wine via PulseAudio Status in Wine: Confirmed Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “wine” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Binary package hint: wine I'm running the Spotify Windows application on two laptops under Wine with both internal and external USB sound card. With both cards you get the occasional pop and click in the sound suggesting some data loss somewhere. I've selected the alsa drivers in winecfg and the whole thing is running via the alsa compatibility layer in pulseaudio. Jaunty 9.04 UNR and standard Ubuntu desktop. wine: Installed: 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 Candidate: 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 Version table: *** 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status pulseaudio: Installed: 1:0.9.14-0ubuntu20 Candidate: 1:0.9.14-0ubuntu20 Version table: *** 1:0.9.14-0ubuntu20 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wine/+bug/371897/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp