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On 2011-10-16T12:09:46+00:00 Gilbertd+kde wrote:

Version:           unspecified (using KDE 4.7.2) 
OS:                Linux

(I originally reported this on Ubuntu's Launchpad as:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/875660)

I'm running Kubuntu with pulseaudio.
I have on my motherboard intel hda analog audio and my graphics card (an ATI) 
had an HDMI out; by default I like the audio to come out of the analog output 
that is the only one connected.

Sometimes logging into KDE I find that it's decided to switch to the
HDMI as the default; today I caught it and did an lsof /dev/snd/* and
found:

knotify4 2276 dg mem CHR 116,3 6691 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
knotify4 2276 dg 20r CHR 116,33 0t0 9995 /dev/snd/timer
knotify4 2276 dg 21u CHR 116,3 0t0 6691 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
pulseaudi 2893 dg 24u CHR 116,9 0t0 6698 /dev/snd/controlC1
pulseaudi 2893 dg 31u CHR 116,6 0t0 6694 /dev/snd/controlC0
pulseaudi 2893 dg 38u CHR 116,6 0t0 6694 /dev/snd/controlC0

So knotify4 has hogged the analog output, and hence pa can't get in.

So I kill knotify4, and do a pactl exit to restart pa - but pa then
still lists the HDMI as the default output in paman.

(I've now found I can switch it back with pacmd set-default-sink)

Dave

Reproducible: Sometimes

Steps to Reproduce:
It's a race, so only happens sometimes.
1) Login
2) Try to play some music
3) Find it doesn't play
4) lsof /dev/snd/* to see who has what devices

Actual Results:  
No music coming out of my analog output.
lsof shows knotify4 hogging the analog device

Expected Results:  
Sweet music on my analog output, pa has opened all the devices.

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On 2011-10-17T09:47:52+00:00 Ym8-colin-nbv wrote:

It's not exactly a good solution, but I've been patching knotify for a
while now to use libcanberra instead. It's been working pretty well for
me!

See the canberra branch here:
http://colin.guthr.ie/git/kdebase-runtime/

It's pretty old now but should apply cleanly still if you want to try it
out.

The whole default device thing shouldn't really matter under KDE
(provided you run start-pulseaudio-kde after restarting PA to reload the
module-device-manager module) this is run automatically at startup and
in future releases will be baked into PA itself so will be
deprecated.... that's a good few months away tho'.

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On 2012-03-08T11:34:44+00:00 Chain wrote:

This happens for me now almost every day. I am using 4.7.4 - is this
fixed in newer versions?

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On 2012-03-08T11:47:48+00:00 Ym8-colin-nbv wrote:

Not that I know of.

Have you tried the canberra patches I posted earlier? Does that avoid
the problem for you?

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On 2012-03-08T12:44:02+00:00 Chain wrote:

(In reply to comment #3)
> Not that I know of.
> 
> Have you tried the canberra patches I posted earlier? Does that avoid the
> problem for you?

I only get "No repositories found" at the site. If the patch should
work, maybe I can make a patched ebuild (using Gentoo).

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On 2012-03-08T12:54:51+00:00 Ym8-colin-nbv wrote:

Oh sorry, I guess the link is out of date:
http://colin.guthr.ie/git/kde-runtime/

I did a rebase not long ago, so the patches should all still apply
(quite simple patches anyway)

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On 2012-04-09T06:47:45+00:00 Derick Eddington wrote:

I suspect this bug is the same, or related to, a problem that happened
with my install of Kubuntu 12.04 beta2: After Kubuntu was freshly
installed, my keyboard volume control keys would not work, even though
sound would play and when the keys were pressed the pop-up notification
and the panel widget would display the change.

After wasting time reading about how to find various types of audio
bugs, and then relearning that HDMI is for output (I've never used it),
I finally realized that the problem was simply that KMix had chosen my
HDMI as the "master channel" and I needed to change it to my built-in
audio.

If this bug is related to my problem, it will be great if it will be
fixed soon, because I can imagine unsavvy users giving up on KDE when
they can't discover how to fix the problem before their patience
expires.

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On 2012-04-09T10:08:43+00:00 Ym8-colin-nbv wrote:

@Derick: This is a different problem.

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On 2012-04-09T11:26:51+00:00 Gilbertd+kde wrote:

I should say this hasn't happened to me for a while (tempting fate!) -
I'm on 4.8.2 now.

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On 2012-04-09T11:29:35+00:00 Chain wrote:

This happened for me again when I upgraded from 4.7.4 to 4.8.1

...it seems it happens when the system is loaded while starting KDE.

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On 2013-03-20T01:05:28+00:00 Chain wrote:

It still happens on 4.10.1.

This is Gentoo. Two identical systems, on one PA wins and all is peachy.
On the other however knotify4 wins and PA misses the default audio
device. All you can do at that moment is:

* kill knotify4
* kill PA
* kill knotify4 AGAIN
* start PA
* restart kmix

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Title:
  PA and knotify startup race leads to wrong device selection

Status in Phonon:
  New
Status in “kde-runtime” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  This appears to be a regression in Oneiric.
  I'm running Kubuntu with pulseaudio.
  I have on my motherboard intel hda analog audio and my graphics card (an ATI) 
had an HDMI out; by default I like the audio to come out of the analog output 
that is the only one connected.

  Sometimes logging into KDE I find that it's decided to switch to the
  HDMI as the default; today I caught it and did an lsof /dev/snd/* and
  found:

  knotify4  2276   dg  mem    CHR  116,3          6691 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
  knotify4  2276   dg   20r   CHR 116,33      0t0 9995 /dev/snd/timer
  knotify4  2276   dg   21u   CHR  116,3      0t0 6691 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
  pulseaudi 2893   dg   24u   CHR  116,9      0t0 6698 /dev/snd/controlC1       
                                                                                
                                                                                
                          
  pulseaudi 2893   dg   31u   CHR  116,6      0t0 6694 /dev/snd/controlC0       
                                                                                
                                                                                
                          
  pulseaudi 2893   dg   38u   CHR  116,6      0t0 6694 /dev/snd/controlC0       
                                                                                
                                                                                
                          

  So knotify4 has hogged the analog output, and hence pa can't get in.

  So I kill knotify4, and do a pactl exit to restart pa - but pa then
  still lists the HDMI as the default output in paman, and I can't see a
  way to get it back to default without restarting everything.

  I'm also going to subscribe this bug to kde-runtime; I'm not sure who
  is supposed to manage the race between pa startup and anything else,
  and I'm not sure if it's a kubuntu special or KDE in general.

  Dave

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
  Package: pulseaudio 1:1.0-0ubuntu3
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-12.20-generic 3.0.4
  Uname: Linux 3.0.0-12-generic x86_64
  AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.
  ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu3
  Architecture: amd64
  ArecordDevices:
   **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
   card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog]
     Subdevices: 2/2
     Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
     Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC1:  dg         4889 F.... pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  dg         4889 F.... pulseaudio
  Card0.Amixer.info:
   Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xfbcf8000 irq 47'
     Mixer name : 'VIA VT1708S'
     Components : 'HDA:11060397,18490397,00100000'
     Controls      : 37
     Simple ctrls  : 21
  Card1.Amixer.info:
   Card hw:1 'HDMI'/'HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfbffc000 irq 48'
     Mixer name : 'ATI R6xx HDMI'
     Components : 'HDA:1002aa01,00aa0100,00100100'
     Controls      : 4
     Simple ctrls  : 1
  Card1.Amixer.values:
   Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
     Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum
     Playback channels: Mono
     Mono: Playback [on]
  CheckboxSubmission: f2d10bd9f943a85b486a282e7840a570
  CheckboxSystem: 0531969bcfd4f03af7405c98dc94a948
  Date: Sun Oct 16 12:31:37 2011
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala" - Release amd64 (20091027)
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=
   PATH=(custom, user)
   LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: pulseaudio
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to oneiric on 2011-09-24 (21 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 09/10/2009
  dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: P1.50
  dmi.board.name: P55M Pro
  dmi.board.vendor: ASRock
  dmi.chassis.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.chassis.type: 3
  dmi.chassis.vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.chassis.version: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvrP1.50:bd09/10/2009:svnToBeFilledByO.E.M.:pnToBeFilledByO.E.M.:pvrToBeFilledByO.E.M.:rvnASRock:rnP55MPro:rvr:cvnToBeFilledByO.E.M.:ct3:cvrToBeFilledByO.E.M.:
  dmi.product.name: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.product.version: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.sys.vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

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