Well I have not looked at the spec itself (the pdf) for this part tbh, I am just going off of javadocs. Also, I guess maybe some of my opinion is based as a quite heavy user of JDBC and knowing what is actually useful :)

All that said, I think you have to look at executeUpdate() and getUpdateCount() in similar light. Hopefully we can agree on that. Both are inherited from PreparedStatement/Statement. Whether the inheritence in these JDBC statement classes is a good decision we'll leave for another discussion :)

Looking at http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/sql/PreparedStatement.html#executeUpdate(), we see that it "Executes the SQL statement in this PreparedStatement object, which must be an SQL Data Manipulation Language (DML) statement, such as INSERT, UPDATE or DELETE; or an SQL statement that returns nothing, such as a DDL statement.". It goes on to say that the expected return is "either (1) the row count for SQL Data Manipulation Language (DML) statements or (2) 0 for SQL statements that return nothing". "return nothing" is not the same as returning an empty result set, I hope we can agree. Its the difference between returning null and having a void return type. So overall, the return here is expected to be either (1) the number of rows affected (mutated, modified, whatever term you like) or (2) 0 for any statements which "return nothing" (void, not null/empty)

The javadocs for executeUpdate do not discuss -1 as a result. It expects a SQLException for statements that return ResultSets, rather than returing -1. Personally I avoid executeUpdate for this reason and use execute() since my work is more general purpose.

For getUpdateCount() we have to look at http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/sql/Statement.html#getUpdateCount which says "Retrieves the current result as an update count; if the result is a ResultSet object or there are no more results, -1 is returned. This method should be called only once per result.". Honestly

As for my usability comment, at the end of the day users of this API need to be able to access the sum total of all "outputs" of the procedure being called. That includes one or more ResultSets, one or more updateCounts (or a single overall updateCount depending on your reading) and one or more INOUT/OUT parameters. The docs anyway are pretty clear that as API users we can expect we are done processing all non-parameter outputs when `((stmt.getMoreResults() == false) && (stmt.getUpdateCount() == -1))` evaluates to true [1]. Going back to my original question, the testing procedure clearly is not returning results [stmt.getMoreResults()==false]. As the procedure is doing "SQL Data Manipulation Language (DML) statements", I fully expect to next query stmt.getUpdateCount() to be able to get the number of rows affected.

To be quite honest, I do not even begin to see the argument (from a usability perspective) for stmt.getUpdateCount() in my case to return 0. Maybe there is something in the actual spec PDF that lends to that argument, but like I said that really just kills the usability of this API.

[1] See docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/sql/Statement.html#getMoreResults




On Thu 01 Aug 2013 12:03:52 PM CDT, Rick Hillegas wrote:
On 8/1/13 8:27 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
As far as I could tell, the embedded driver was always returning
zero.  That happens from both executeUpdate() and getUpdateCount().
Now its very possible that I did not code the stored procedure
properly in terms of how Derby expects to "see" the update count.  I
followed examples, but maybe I missed something.

And the options of using a function nor an (IN)OUT parameter is not
an option unfortunately.

I am trying to spin up unit tests here, so have only used in-process
dbs thus far for testing this.  Specifically H2 and then Derby.
Neither returned what I expect based on JDBC.  Thomas agrees H2 does
not do this properly.

In terms of expectation, the execute() call should of course execute
the proc.  Since this proc does not return results, execute() should
return false.  Then getUpdateCount() ought to return the number of
rows "modified" by the call, or -1 if no modification was done.  0
and -1 are distinctly different according to the spec.  I hate "magic
values" as much as anyone, but the spec says what it says ;)
Hi Steve,

Can you point me at the sections of the JDBC spec which you feel
support this interpretation? I am concerned that this part of the spec
may be undefined and I am seeing a range of opinions, including:

1) Should return -1 because a procedure call is not an
INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE statement.

2) Should return the update count of the last INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE
statement executed by the procedure.

3) Should return the sum of the update counts of all
INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE statements executed by the procedure.

Thanks,
-Rick


On Thu 01 Aug 2013 09:56:21 AM CDT, Rick Hillegas wrote:
Hi Steve,

I'm not sure that DERBY-211 addresses the functionality you want. That
issue seems to me to be a discussion about whether 0 or -1 is the
correct value for CallableStatement.getUpdateCount() when the stored
procedure does NOT return any ResultSets. It sounds as though you want
getUpdateCount() to return a positive number in that case, maybe the
sum of the update counts for all INSERT, UPDATE, and DELETE statements
executed inside the procedure.

It also sounds as though you are experimenting with other databases
for which CallableStatement.getUpdateCount() returns a positive
number. Can you describe the behavior of the other databases? I would
like to take your evidence to the JDBC expert group in order to
determine what the correct behavior should be. As a result, we may
need to open a new Derby issue.

Note that the solution which I suggested ought to be portable across
all JDBC databases.

Thanks,
-Rick

On 8/1/13 7:08 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
Dag, Rick..  thanks for your replies.  I am not subscribed to the
list, but saw them in archive.

Unfortunately a workaround won't work.  This is support for stored
procedures across all databases that I am adding in Hibernate.  So
there has to be a certain level of consistency.  I'll just add a note
that stored procedures doing manipulation will not work correctly
with Derby (in terms of getting the "affect rows" count) when used in
embedded mode and reference to DERBY-211.

On Thu 01 Aug 2013 09:02:15 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote:
Looks like I am seeing
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-211

On Wed 31 Jul 2013 07:02:01 PM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote:
I am trying to work out how to define a Java stored procedure using
Derby that performs a insert/update/delete and results in the proper
"update count" on the JDBC client.  But I have so far been
unsuccessful.

Here is what I have...

First, through JDBC I execute:

create procedure deleteAllUsers()
language java
external name 'TheClass.deleteAllUsers'
parameter style java

TheClass.deleteAllUsers looks like:

public static void deleteAllUsers() {
    Connection conn = DriverManager.getConnection(
"jdbc:default:connection" );
    PreparedStatement ps = conn.prepareStatement( "delete from
t_user" );
    int count = ps.executeUpdate();
    System.out.println( "Count : " + count );
    ps.close();
    conn.close();
}

And on the JDBC client side:

Connection conn = ...;
CallableStatement stmnt = conn.prepareCall( "{call
deleteAllUsers()}" );
// yes I know this could be stmnt.executeUpdate()...
stmnt.execute();
int count = stmnt.getUpdateCount();


So the deleteAllUsers() prints the correct count.  But on the
client,
I always get zero (and not -1).

Obviously I am doing something wrong.  Any pointers?

Thanks,
Steve




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