On 12/19/11 12:24 PM, JulioSerje wrote:


Rick Hillegas-3 wrote:
On 12/16/11 1:42 PM, JulioSerje wrote:
Is there any way to implement an update using a JOIN?  The reference
manual
only allows for one table to be updated:

UPDATE table-Name [[AS] correlation-Name]
    SET column-Name = Value
    [ , column-Name = Value} ]*
    [WHERE clause]

We have an application where need to run many queries like:

update t1  set t1.a=t2.b, t1.c=t2.d,...t1.x=(t2.a+t2.b/t2.y)
         from Table1 t1 join Table2 t2 on t1.k=t2.k
         where t1.x=1  and t2.y=2

We offer support on our app to most data platforms (Oracle, MySql,
SQLServer, PostgreSQL, SQLite, even Access..) and in all of them there is
a
way of doing this...

Is this something missing in Derby?

Any ideas highly appreciated.

Hi Julio,

UPDATE...FROM is a useful statement which appears in many SQL dialects.
However, it does not appear in the standard ANSI/ISO SQL dialect which
Derby implements, not even in the recently published 2011 version of the
standard dialect.

A standard approach to updating a column from a join is to use
subqueries in the SET clause. E.g., something like this:

      update t1 set a = ( select t2.a from t1, t2 where t1.b = t2.b );

Hope this helps,
-Rick


Thanks a lot for your response, Rick.

This, despite being a standard is a much cumbersome way of doing what in
other dialects is straightforward. I believe this may be seen as a weakness
of Derby engine (- and maybe of the standard itself).

  A second question would be if performance of a 'standard' update with quite
a few sub queries will be the same or comparable to an UPDATE ... FROM ...
type of query. Does Derby internal optimizer recognize this situation?

Hi Julio,

I haven't looked into the details of what the Derby optimizer does in the case of multiple SET clauses, each driven by its own subselect. It is likely that this is an underoptimized case. If you rewrite your query to use subselects in the SET clauses, and you experience poor performance on Derby, you may be able to get advice on this list about how to improve that performance.

It is possible that the Derby UDPATE will compute different results than the UPDATE...FROM statements in your other databases. Derby may even raise an error. If Derby raises an error, this may be a warning to you that your UPDATE...FROM statements are ambiguous. An UPDATE...FROM statement may end up updating the same column multiple times in a non-deterministic way. This can happen if the join in the FROM clause returns multiple joined rows for each row in the table you are updating. In this situation, the standard syntax will raise an error because the subselects are supposed to return one row each. More information on this problem can be found here: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis/archive/2008/03/10/lets-deprecate-update-from.aspx

Hope this is helpful,
-Rick

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