On Thu, 2020-01-23 at 09:55 +0000, Joe Wilkinson wrote: > Hi Richard, > I looked at Tremolo as I have used it with Mandolin music. I thought > it might be possible to > drag the tremolo symbol to where Peter wanted it.
I think the command Command: Two Note (or Chord) Tremolo Takes the selected two notes or chords and repeats them to make up the duration of a longer note. This will then be typeset using the tremolo notation (beaming placed between notes), while the Denemo Display will show and sound the repetitions. Location: Object Menu ▶ Notes/Rests Internal Name: TwoNoteTremolo already does place the tremolo mark where Peter described. I've just had a try and it does seem to work: Insert two semiquavers (1/16th) notes. Select them leaving the cursor inside the selection. Invoke the command and give 8 as the number of times to sound the notes The result is that Denemo fills bar in the display with a further 14 semiquavers so that the playback sound is right and the typeset shows two semibreves (whole notes) with double beam between as Peter described. > Have you changed the Drag item (in the Typeset Window) command to > make it more user friendly. I found it cumbersome (not using split > screen I had to close the edit window to avoid getting confused) and > couldn't get it to work! The double beam created by the above command is not something that could be dragged in the Print View - dragging is only possible for objects that appear in the Denemo Display as Denemo Directives - either standalone or attached to a note/chord. > 2. edit the tremolo object Are you thinking of a tremolo marking on a single note here? I see that it does not behave properly when you try to move it :(, it has its own edit procedure that doesn't include moving the position of the symbol - you would have to delve into the LilyPond syntax to try and do that, my guess is that it would be quite arcane. > in the edit window. On one occasion I got into the Advanced setting > and tried to make it negative ??? I think you may mean that you added a hyphen to the LilyPond syntax being attached, though I don't see any effect... > (and the marks appeared below the staff). The rest of the time > pressing the Advanced button replaced the line of buttons with a > single one about editing. It came back if I picked the green tremolo > word, but was not obvious. ??? not sure if you are in the Object Editor when you pressed Advanced, or what the "line of buttons" is, or where a green tremolo word appears...??? What was it that you were trying to do? Richard > just thought you ought to know > Joe > On 23/01/2020 09:08, Richard Shann wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 17:37 -0500, Peter French wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I am using Denemo 2.2.0 on a Windows 7 pro box. > > > > > > I need to note what I would call al Tremolo for Piano. > > > > > > Usually I see this as two semi-breve notes on the staff with > > > three > > > lines > > > between them. Not beaming and not joining to either note. > > > > > > Quite often seen as written for a left hand octave spread and > > > rolled > > > quickly between the thumb and little finger. > > > > > > I can find no reference to this type of notation within the > > > manual > > > whatever. > > > > The manual doesn't have the detailed information about all the > > commands > > that are present, unfortunately. It *does* however describe the > > Command > > Center which is the place where you can answer this question. If > > you > > type Tremolo into the Command Center search box you will find > > several > > commands to do with the various sorts of tremolo notation. (Use the > > -> > > button to search onward for further commands after you have the > > first > > one). > > > your assistance will be appreciated as I cannot finish the score > > > I > > > am > > > working on without. > > > > > > Is there a way to line up a verse with the correct notes after > > > playing a > > > piano introduction? > > > > Yes. I think what you need to do is select the introduction (the > > notes > > show with a yellow background) and then choose the command > > Lyrics->Skip Lyrics in Selection > > - this will insert the needed "skips". > > > For instance if I have a three bar introduction before the vocal > > > starts, > > > can I do this without forcing the alignment with the use of > > > spaces > > > and > > > hyphens? > > > > The above command uses neater LilyPond syntax to do the skipping > > e.g. > > > > \repeat unfold 4 \skip 1 > > > > is the LilyPond syntax it inserts into the lyrics to skip four > > syllables. > > > > > Also how do I write for a second voice in the same verse, for > > > instance echoing phrases from the first voice in parts of the > > > work? > > > > I'm not at all sure I understand this question - are you talking > > about > > lyrics here or notes (the second case might be keyboard polyphony - > > using several voices on one staff)? > > > > > Last question for the moment, I have a trill which I want to > > > extend > > > for > > > a second note, like a crotchet and quaver combination not tied. > > > > > > Using the trill on the menu's that I have found it only covers > > > the > > > first > > > note, is there a way to extend it over the two notes? > > > > yes, again the Command Center search puts you on the Start Trill > > and > > Stop Trill commands after the three other trill commands. > > > > Command: Start Trill > > Starts a spanning trill from the note at the cursor. > > Location: Object Menu ▶ Directives ▶ Markings ▶ Spanning > > Internal Name: StartTrillSpan > > > > > I did previously write to Richard Shann and though he answered me > > > he > > > advised using the forum > > > > I think you may have misunderstood - I will have meant to point you > > to > > this mailing list, which thankfully you have found - if you > > subscribe > > to the list (see Community page on denemo.org) you will be able to > > send > > emails without them being delayed for moderation and see any other > > questions that people may ask. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Richard Shann > > > >
