That's actually the code I was looking at before I started this thread.  This 
led me to think, if I need it then I'm pretty sure that other framework 
developers would need it as well, my needs being pretty straightforward.  


Regards,
Alan

 
On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:44 AM, Pete Muir wrote:

> If you are happy to be tied to a specific CDI implementation, you could use 
> the Weld "bound conversations" - 
> http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/1.1.5.Final/en-US/html/contexts.html#d0e5506
>  - which can be backed by two maps, one representing the "session" and one 
> the "request". Or, you could take a look at how Weld implements conversations 
> for inspiration.
> 
> I think we maybe would add a conversation scope like this, that is just bound 
> by maps and api, not tied to the web, in some later version of DeltaSpike.
> 
> On 2 Apr 2012, at 21:10, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> 
>> Maybe the confusion stems from my lack of experience creating custom 
>> contexts.  Let me explain what I'm trying to do.
>> 
>> I'm trying to manage a state machine, SM, which has been associated with a 
>> particular session scope of a communications link.  The current state is a 
>> scope associated w/ that SM.  When the SM transitions to a new state the old 
>> state/scope is destroyed and a new one is created.  
>> 
>> I think that it's kind of like a conversation.  Is there any example code 
>> that I could look at that supports this kind of scenario?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 3:51 AM, Gerhard Petracek wrote:
>> 
>>> i agree with pete.
>>> in myfaces codi we have a basic (internal) infrastructure for more advanced
>>> conversations and a spi for customizing the default behaviour.
>>> the infrastructure itself just makes sense for "similar" scopes (right now
>>> we have 4 scopes based on it and they share most of the implementation).
>>> 
>>> -> it doesn't make sense for scopes which are too different (and the spi
>>> should be enough to customize the default behaviour of existing scopes).
>>> it would be nice if you share your requirements, maybe there is an existing
>>> (custom) scope you can use.
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> gerhard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/4/2 Pete Muir <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>>> I'm not quite sure what this would constitute, beyond a trivial base class
>>>> or a consistent start/stop API. Every context has quite different
>>>> requirements in my experience, and the hard part is linking the context to
>>>> the start/stop points, and to whatever backs the context, not the actual
>>>> context implementation.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have some ideas about what utilities you need?
>>>> 
>>>> On 1 Apr 2012, at 18:05, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It sure would be handy if there were a set of utilities available to
>>>> help framework developers who wish to implement custom Contexts.   Maybe I
>>>> missed something during my perusal or maybe it's not all that tough.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The context that I need to implement is something of a conversational
>>>> nature.  So I don't think that it's trivial to implement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
> 

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