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Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-02-14
Severity: normal

I'm hereby announcing that i intend to orphan the phpgroupware group of
Debian packages. I'm sorry if i did not maintained it in the best way
lately, but i've already moved to other tools, and i neither use it any
longer, nor i've enough time to handle it proprely. Please let me know
if any of you intend to step in: i'll gladly help any one of the
phpgroupware team willing to join Debian, or any other Debian Developer
willing to take it up for adoption.

phpgroupware was the package with which i joined Debian: that's why i
would like to choose the one to which i'll leave it.

Please, mail me privately.

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On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:27:06AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> You have RFA'd phpgroupware and I've ITA'd it. Waiting until the ugly wor=
k (i.e.
> the security update to stable) is getting done by others and then popping=
 back
> out of your hole to say "April fools" is not acceptable.
> Your maintainance of phpGroupWare has been limited to yelling at people w=
anting
> to finally do something about the embarrassingly poor state of Debian pac=
kages,
> and it's time to let that go. [0] (In private mail, one of the upstream
> developers who uses Debian told me that he "would not use those debs, eve=
n if
> someone paid [him]", I've been getting private mails form other users wit=
h the
> same bad experience with phpgroupware.) Maybe you are one of the examples=
 on why
> the NM process isn't thorough (slow) enough at present.

Your ideas of hindering people contributing is a non-sense i've already told
you. There is no benefit in this for anyone.
We have never discussed about your adoption of phpgroupware, so i don't see=
 why
you felt free to adopt it.
I've already told you, and i'm writing it publically, that an infrastructur=
e to
cooperate is up in place and i've already told you i would have let you
contribute beside your almost intent to hijack. I wrote it publically in
_many_ ways i wanted people to help me, but the only answares i got was to =
take
over the packges (and many fake intent to contribute). This really make me =
sick.

> If you cannot incorporate a simple patch in BTS fixing RC bugs into your
> packages [1], how will you collaborate using alioth?

I would let people apply their patch to the cvs directly being able to catch
diffs and reviewing work and seeing people really contribute.

> Ever wondered why your appeals for cooperation have no response? Look at
> #164354. Have I ever received a response to my offer to help (along with =
patch)
> in #183896? No.

You still do not understand what is being busy might mean (apart the fact t=
hat
you patch didn't provide a real solution to the bug).

I don't know how to demonstrate any more that your opinon about me are faul=
ty.
I supposed my self to be the last person who would not let people work with=
 me.

I'm still here saying that i'll be happy to cooperate and let you in, but i=
'm
wandering if i'm doing the right thing.

ciao,
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Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis              | Elegant or ugly code as well
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local LANG=3D"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"                     | don't depend on the 
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