On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 04:39:18AM +0100, Matthew Astley wrote:
> 
> No, I meant "pull down" in the sense of stealing the message-id and
> subject line, really. I think I expected some different flavour of
> confusion. 8-}

If you want to replace wpoison's WNPP entry with whatever you are
working on, feel free to. I don't mind about wpoison anymore.

> For a change, it's not NTL. http://bugs.debian.org/133790   8-(
> 
> Oh whoops, I should've hit that with the browser first, rather than
> taking reportbug's perspective (ie. first message only). D'ya think I
> should file against reportbug? Seems a bit trigger-happy, but a "don't
> forget to read the whole thing" warning might save some embarrassment
> for someone.

I don't know, speak with the reportbug maintainer.

> > Do you have a sponsor to get it in Debian?
> 
> No. I know a couple of maintainers, but I've not asked for
> sponsorship. I don't know exactly what this requires them to do, or
> what sort of standing they require. Will read stuff "later".

You need a developer that can help you. Not all maintainers are
developers. You can identify a developer by his/her address @debian.org
or with the database at http://db.debian.org/.

I'd ask in debian-devel, debian-mentors and mostly to people who manifested
interest in wpoison (see the RFP entry)

This URL contains some useful information for sponsors:

http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/

> Also, I think "tramspap" should have a few more tricks up its sleeve
> before being turned loose on the world. For example, I've just
> discovered that any sort of multi-threaded crawler will very
> effectively DoS the Apache by using up all eight threads. Oops.
> 
> I can't see a sane answer to this one. You _have_ to tie up the Apache
> process while you're returning HTML at 1cps.
> 
> Perhaps the tarpitting aspect could be handled by a special Apache
> module which accepts a bufferful of data and returns it slowly, while
> still accepting the next connection?
> 
> It would appear to be valid to fork off some trivial process to handle
> the squirt of data. All that's required is "feed this data out slowly,
> until they go away or you run out of data". There's no reason to
> accept input, provided the keep-alive has been disabled.

Maybe on the lists about apache and security someone can help on this:

http://lists.debian.org/

cheers,

-- 
Robert Millan

"5 years from now everyone will be running
free GNU on their 200 MIPS, 64M SPARCstation-5"

              Andrew S. Tanenbaum, 30 Jan 1992


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