Hi Emil, by looking for free software alternatives for Skype available on Debian, I got aware of jitsi, which seems to have an awesome feature set. As it is not available in the official Debian archive, I looked around and found out about the recent efforts to package it for Debian (namely Debian bug #627362).
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:58:34PM +0100, Emil Ivov wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Thomas Koch <tho...@koch.ro> wrote: > > In any case, there are some things that Jitsi should/could/must do itself to > > make a native package for Debian/Fedora/OpenSuse doable. I've opened jira > > issues for those and linked them from an umbrella issue: > > > > http://java.net/jira/browse/JITSI-996 > > Ouch ... that's something that we like to avoid [0]. > > We only enter issues once we've determined exactly what they are and > decided that we'll be fixing them at some point. I've closed the > issues and we'll reopen those that we agree on, if and when we do. > Right now we are still in the discussion stages of the debian > packaging. We'd first need to decide exactly what needs to be resolved > here and how we can do that. > [...] > > > We can continue to discuss the items separately in those issues. Okay, so, let's list all the issues that Thomas reported already, here again. For one to make them more visible, and also to get a consensus about the status of these issues. Not using an issue tracker will of course make it harder to keep track of the actual conclusions. But as you wanted to have it this way, of course I expect that you will then give your opinion on them one by one, more with regards to content than with regards the way we report issues. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- JITSI-995 document (or manage) native dependencies (by Thomas Koch) There's no central location where one can see which C libraries of what version, origin and license Jitsi uses, which of them are patched, in what way and for what reason. I'm not a C developer so I don't know if there's something like Maven/Ivy for C that manages dependencies? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- JITSI-994 Use Ivy or Maven to manage java dependencies (by Thomas Koch) It is hard for a distro (Debian/Fedora/Suse) packager to find out which java dependencies Jitsi has. A pom.xml or ivy.xml would make things much easier and then the dependencies could also be removed from SVN. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- JITSI-993 get rid of json.org java dependency (by Thomas Koch) The json.org java library is non-free according to Debian and maybe also other distros. As long as jitsi depends on json.org it can not enter the Debian archive. http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-legal@lists.debian.org/msg40718.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- JITSI-997 Provide a source only tarball (by Thomas Koch) Linux distributions want to build their packages and all dependencies of those themselves. So it must be possible to download a source distribution of jitsi (prefarable as .tar.gz or .tar.bz2) that does not contain any third-party binaries and build jitsi from this source distribution with the help of the dependencies existing in the distro. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- JITSI-998 review and document licenses and origins of images in jitsi (by Thomas Koch) A distro packager needs to be sure that the images coming with Jitsi can be distributed under a free license. If the images are taken from common sets like Tango it would even be preferable for a packager to not ship the images in the jitsi package but to depend on the tango package of the distribution. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am looking forward to read your comments on these issues. Regards, Micha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120805102744.ga27...@mail.lenk.info
