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Subject: Re: OT: Viruses on lists Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:45:51 +0200 From: steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 10 May 2004 22:22, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > Paul Johnson had the gall to say: > > "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [snip] > > > > Almost. murphy generates a bounce and sends it to the list manager > > > (mailman, majordomo, ezmlm, etc. - I don't know what one murphy is > > > running). The list manager then counts that against you in its > > > determination of which addresses are invalid and need to be removed > > > from the list. > > > > It takes quite a few bounces before you get removed, though. > > Does anyone know a definitive figure or rate here? > > > > My choice is to simply drop viruses. I don't expect to have any legit > > > messages falsely identified as viral, and dropping the message simply > > > removes waste from the network bandwidth and disk storage of the > > > world. I see no need to push the bounce back at someone else, > > > particularly since the offender is rarely the one punished in that > > > case. > > Drop /after/ accepting? Would that not mark you (in the virus' eyes, > anyway) as a potential target? What with viruses having their own > builtin SMTP engines these days and hence knowing for sure what response > was given to the SMTP session, is that not potentially inviting future, > smarter viruses (with memories for this sort of thing) to hit you first? > > > Which is why I reject at SMTP. Doesn't push a bounce back to forged > > addresses. > > I should have said - I've followed Paul's instructions on ursine.ca to > set this up, and am consequently rejecting at SMTP time. > > I'm unsure as to the difference between accepting a mail and bouncing > later and rejecting at SMTP time as far as murphy is concerned. (I'm > fine with the general difference for normal mail.) Can anyone venture > an opinion? Do both bounces (is it correct to call a 5xx reject a > "bounce"?) count similarly negatively when working out who shouldn't be > on the list anymore? Should I stop asking questions (sort of like this > one?) inside other questions? > > Answers on a postcard, please ... > > Cheers, > Jonathan "I" am rejecting at smtp. bouncing back, as said, seldom punishes the offender. like it that way: no trouble up till now. hardly spam. cheers, steef ------------------------------------------------------- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
