On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 04:13:54PM -0000, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2004-04-17, Will Trillich penned: > > other distros have a nice hunk of syntactic sugar (so simple it could > > be a shell function -- a separate script file seems like overkill) > > called > > > > service <initscript> <start/stop/restart> > > > > which runs /etc/init.d/* scripts. how come woody doesn't have such a > > thing by default? i'm wondering if there's a security issue that isn't > > obvious to the neophyte...? > > what about invoke-rc.d ?
aha! perfect! i've been using debian since 1997 or so, and until four minutes ago (thank you) i never knew "invoke-rc.d" existed. of course, most online documentation mentions "service" which is probably a red-hat -ism, so i knew to look for that, at least. how could i have discovered invoke-rc.d on my own, except by stumbling into it by mistake? ================= here's a question -- perhaps THE question -- is it possible to put in place some system that'll NOT ONLY point a newbie in the right direction, but have a high likelihood of BEING FOUND by such a newbie? "help" shows common bash commands, instead of general "what are you trying to do?" "man" requires that you already know the command you're after, and "man" isn't likely to be what a newbie would expect to issue in order to learn something "apropos" often gives dozens of false positives, and for mostly a single-word term, and won't show up on a newbie's radar without lots of outside help "info" has a steep learning curve for those accustomed to web browsers command-completion (partial-word-then-TAB) helps show what's available, but only for initial-string matches (e.g. it's easy to find apache*-related commands but not *rc.d-related commands) debian-user is (as are other mailing lists) a great resource, but can also send a newbie running for the hills when the questions aren't posed just so -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux boss 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #93 from Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : How do you get Mutt to GPG SIGN A MESSAGE BASED ON THE RECIPIENT? Depending on what address I send mail to, I have the need to turn GPG signing on and off: send-hook .* 'set pgp_autosign=yes; set signature=~/.sigfile' send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'set pgp_autosign=no; unset signature' send-hook majordomo@ 'set pgp_autosign=no; unset signature' send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'set pgp_autosign=no' send-hook camarilla 'set signature=~/.sigfile_cam' The reason I have the first line there is because without it after sending a message that matched (for example) one of the server command addresses (second and third lines) then any messages after that weren't being signed nor did they have sig blocks. So I put the first line in to match all messages. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]