Hello list, after 3 days of twiddling with a "recent" copy of debians woody release i need to vent a bit of the anger and frustration that this distribution has caused.
I want to start with saying that i was a strong advocate of debian compared to distributions such as RedHat and SuSE. Being a UNIX admin professionally (Solaris mainly), i felt home on a debian system pretty quick, and the packaging method was unique among all linux deriatives i have seen. Also i used to like debians approach of stability before bleeding-edge stuff. However as i have to install a small network now (7 WS's and one server), i have to reconsider this assessment. I downloaded woody (2 failed attempts to get an installation CD with the new jigdo method). What i got after installation was - a 2.2 Kernel without ext3 support - a KDE 2.0 overall totally outdated and useless versions of libraries and software. I then tried to figure out how to update those packages i need in recent versions. As i know KDE from Solaris, i trust enough in their own QA procedure to consider their 3.2.1 stable enough for usage. Why debian believes KDE 2.0 is more stable, or even usable at all, is beyond my understanding. However it turned out that i could not update only selected packages easily. In fact neither of dselect or apt-get seemed to have a method to do this in a sensible way. Now it MAY well be that i am just an idiot who is not capable of doing this, however i asked in a few linux related channels and also at work, noone could tell me how to set up a half-way decent debian without compromising the pkg system. Sure many told me to build it all by hand but then, without the packaging system what good is debian? I hope that whoever is responsible for the direction debian is steering to currently thinks about the target of the whole distribution, which is to provide users with a decent linux system that comes stable, yet with all neccessary parts to be competetive among other distributions. Mit schönen Grüßen von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]