on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:42:06PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 02:41:54PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> | on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:47:26PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
> | > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 12:32:10PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> [...] 
> | > | how, then, should i go about installing the kernel image?
> | > 
> | > Try aptitude.  Trace through the Depends/Conflicts and figure out
> | > what's wrong.  Something must be conflicting somewhere.  (maybe you
> | > just need to upgrade modutils while you install module-init-tools?)
> | 
> | after a bit of poking in aptitude, which was very noninformative,
> 
> It may take a little getting used to, but aptitude combines the data
> available from 'apt-cache show' and 'apt-cache policy' in a way that
> is navigable.  What I would have done in your situation is gone to the
> 'modutils' package.  Press enter to view the package's details.  Some
> line in that view would most likely have been red indicating broken or
> magenta indicating will-be-removed.  Scrolling through the display you
> can see what packages and versions are in the depends and conflicts
> tags for that package as well as the list of what packages (and
> versions) depend on or conflict with the current package.  In
> hindsight, I now know that it would have shown that module-init-tools
> conflicts with modutils <= 2.4.21-1 and your modutils fit that
> criteria (hence apt-get wanted to remove it to solve the conflict).

cool.  i feel like i did this and didn't find anything useful, but
maybe i just didn't spend long enough poking.

> | i tried your suggestion of upgrading modutils (from 2.4.15-1 to
> | 2.4.26-1) -- beautiful.  then the 2.6.4 kernel image goes on without
> | trying to remove everything and its mother.
> 
> Lucky guess.  :-).  At least it worked for you.

yeah, thanks :)

> | of course, i've totally failed to show the slickness of apt to my
> | coworker, because as soon as i booted up with 2.6.4, my mouse (neither
> | USB nor PS2) didn't work, and i wasn't online.  (right now, i've
> | reverted to 2.4 to type this :-P).  surely the 2.6 kernel comes with
> | USB support compiled in?  am i just going to have to suck it up and
> | roll my own kernel?
> 
> I'm using the stock 2.6 kernel on 5 machines.
> 
> There are some differences from 2.4, though, mainly in the module and
> device driver organization.  Some key differences, and probably the
> ones you are running into, :
>     2.4         2.6
>     ---         ---
>     usb-uhci    uhci-hcd
>     usb-ohci    ohci-hcd
>     usb-ehci    ehci-hcd
>                 psmouse     (the PS/2 mouse driver is in a module now)

okay, excellent.  thanks for pointong this out -- now i have a
functional mouse under 2.6.

> I haven't noticed any changes in networking, but that might be
> dependent on the hardware and what modules I already had configured
> to be loaded.

the network error i get when i try to reconfigure my network
interfaces is below:

Reconfiguring network interfaces: cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such
file or directory
Unrecognized kernel version
done.

i can tell that _something's_ not recognizing my kernel version, but
what is it?  i probably just need to grab a newer package of
something, but what?

thanks again!

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