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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2004 : Issue 1168
Today's Topics: SQL Help [ "Saqib Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: AMD vs. Intel [ martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: AMD vs. Intel [ martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] =?Windows-1251?B?Is3l6u7j5OAg8u7r8fL [ Olga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Re: no sound with 2.6.3, nForce2, an [ "Jim Woodward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: upgrade broken (Testing) for 10 [ Uwe Dippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Alsa seems to be working, but no sou [ martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: ALSA problems sarge 2.4.25 [ "Jim Woodward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: AMD vs. Intel [ Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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Subject: SQL Help From: "Saqib Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:15:46 +0000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello please guide me........ this is matter....
select a.zon, b.astyer, count(a.ntn) from ztrmtrext a, rtnmtr b where a.ntn = b.ntn and b.astdat is null and astyer='2003' group by a.zon,b.astyer
select a.zon, b.astyer, count(a.ntn) from ztrmtrext a, rtnmtr b where a.ntn = b.ntn and b.astdat is null and astyer='2002' group by a.zon,b.astyer
this is query.
but actually i want to fatch each year record in a separate variable and in a single query how it is possible.
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Subject: Re: AMD vs. Intel From: martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:03:48 +0200 To: debian users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wasn't the one initiating the cross-post. Don't shoot me.
also sprach Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.04.08.0155 +0200]:
Just to throw some weight behind this, this solution has worked for me on several Athlon / nForce servers I've built. I just removed APIC from the kernel completely.
How? In 2.6 kernels I can't find an option...
also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.04.08.0244 +0200]:
That's why you should run from the battery until it runs down at least once a week or so
I believe this is wrong. Lithium-Ion Batteries actually suffer from complete discharge cycles.
or remove the battery entirely in a half-charge state and store it (just remember to charge it back up before using again).
Yes, this is the best way.
also sprach Katipo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.04.08.0332 +0200]:
and that only briefly for things such as a monitor install.
Why do you need to take a machine down for a monitor install? Do you take it down when you change the network cable too?
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.04.08.0630 +0200]:
Anything that gets the processor to "keep itself cool" while going from idle to almost-full-power as a crazed rabbit will fuck the entire system much sooner, and reduce the stability too.
What? So cooling is bad?
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Subject: Re: AMD vs. Intel From: martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:08:43 +0200 To: debian users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.04.08.0108 +0200]:
No. It is a machine totally dead, CPU won't even NMI, soundboard will keep looping whatever is in its buffer kind of bug. Probably a northbridge issue.
What's NMI?
Try to make sure you don't have external PCI cards sharing IRQs with the internal devices, and see if that improve things.
If only I'd know how to assign IRQs. Ever since they don't give us jumpers for that anymore, I have been a software junky and my knowledge about hardware has decreased logarithmically.
Enable the LAPIC NMI watchdog, and see if that causes better (or worse behaviour). Try it with the IOAPIC NMI watchdog as well.
Do I have to patch that into 2.6.5?
But really, before you do *anything*, get memtest86+ and do a 24-hour burn-in test in the "extended" mode.
Okay.
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Subject: Re: no sound with 2.6.3, nForce2, and ALSA From: "Jim Woodward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:46:30 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Tom Schutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am having no luck getting sound to work. I have a ASUS A7N8X motherboard with the NVIDIA nForce2 chipset. I am running the 2.6.3 kernel on sarge.
I am getting no sound at all. If I play a .wav file using aplay, it pauses for a few seconds and then returns to a command prompt.
I have tried different cables and speakers with no luck.
Any help would be appreciated!
$ uname -a Linux pixel 2.6.3-1-k7 #2 Tue Feb 24 20:39:50 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
$ dmesg | grep intel8x0 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49228 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 47417
$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [nForce2 ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2 NVidia nForce2 at 0xe9000000, irq 21
$ cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_intel8x0
$ cat /proc/asound/card0/intel8x0 Intel8x0
Global control : 0x00000002 Global status : 0x00300100 AC'97 codecs ready : primary
$ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.2c (Thu Feb 05 15:41:49 2004 UTC). Compiled on Feb 21 2004 for kernel 2.6.3-1-k7.
$ lsmod | grep snd snd_seq_oss 34624 0 snd_seq_midi_event 7936 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq 55312 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss 53732 0 snd_mixer_oss 19840 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_intel8x0 34088 2 snd_ac97_codec 62724 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm 100196 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0 snd_timer 25924 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm gameport 4736 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_page_alloc 12164 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 7872 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi 25120 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 8136 3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi snd 55780 13
snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x 0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_devic e
soundcore 10272 2 snd
$ amixer sget Line Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 29 [94%] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 30 [97%] [on] Capture [off]
$ ls -l /dev/audio0 /dev/dsp0 /dev/mixer0 crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 Jul 26 2003 /dev/audio0 crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 26 2003 /dev/dsp0 crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 0 Jul 26 2003 /dev/mixer0
$ groups tom tape audio users
Can u get sounds when logged on as root? If so, then it is most likely a 'permissions' problem. Otherwise I suggest you run xmms in a terminal and try to play something. Look at the error written in the terminal. Good luck!
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Subject: Re: upgrade broken (Testing) for 10 days - libxrender From: Uwe Dippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:56:16 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:30:17 +0200, Sebastiaan wrote:
a apt-get dist-upgrade is usually recommended since it also installs/removes packages when the distribution changes. Try that first, see if the problem remains.
# apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: libxaw7-dev: Depends: x-dev but it is not installed Depends: libxmu-dev but it is not installed Depends: libxt-dev but it is not installed Depends: libsm-dev but it is not installed Depends: libice-dev but it is not installed Depends: libxext-dev but it is not installed Depends: libx11-dev but it is not installed Depends: libxpm-dev but it is not installed libxrender-dev: Depends: libxrender1 (= 0.8.3-5) but 0.8.3-7 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
Back at square one. Am I really the only user with this trouble ?? What went wrong; I don't remember having clicked or selected anything particular. ?
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Subject: Alsa seems to be working, but no sound From: martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:35:43 +0200 To: debian users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi there,
With two systems, one very new and one ancient system, both running 2.6.x, I am experiencing a weird Alsa-related problem. Also is running and the modules are properly loaded. The kernel logs successful initialisation of the modules, and that it found the respective soundcards, and when I play sound, it seems that all is working. There are no errors, xmms plays just fine via tha Alsa output device.
However, there is no sound. I have used alsamixer and pushed every channel to 100% volume, but there is not a single tone that emerges from the speakers, connected to Line Out.
I am puzzled. What can be the cause of this?
Thanks,
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Subject: Re: ALSA problems sarge 2.4.25 From: "Jim Woodward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:56:31 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALl I have been trying to get ALSA working on my admitadly old IBM 300PL for the last while. Extensive Googling and several kernel recompiles later I think I am in reverse! I am running sarge kernel version 2.4.25 Here is the output of aadebug from the ALSA website
sarge:~# ./aadebug ALSA Audio Debug v0.0.7 - Tue Apr 6 09:40:04 EDT 2004 http://alsa.opensrc.org/?aadebug
Kernel ---------------------------------------------------- Linux sarge 2.4.25alsa3 #1 Mon Apr 5 22:57:41 EDT 2004 i586 GNU/Linux
Loaded Modules -------------------------------------------- snd 34276 0
Modules Conf ---------------------------------------------- alias char-major-116 snd alias char-major-14 soundcore options snd major=116 cards_limit=4 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss alias /dev/dsp* snd-pcm-oss alias snd-card-0 snd-cs46xx alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1370 alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-slot-0 alias snd-slot-1 snd-card-1 alias sound-slot-1 snd-slot-1
Proc Asound ----------------------------------------------- Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.3. Compiled on Apr 6 2004 for kernel 2.4.25alsa3 with versioned symbols. --- no soundcards --- cat: /proc/asound/hwdep: No such file or directory cat: /proc/asound/pcm: No such file or directory
Dev Snd --------------------------------------------------- controlC0 hwC1D2 midiC0D0 midiC1D2 midiC2D4 midiC3D6 pcmC0D3p pcmC1D0p pcmC1D5p pcmC2D2p pcmC2D7p pcmC3D4p controlC1 hwC1D3 midiC0D1 midiC1D3 midiC2D5 midiC3D7 pcmC0D4c pcmC1D1c pcmC1D6c pcmC2D3c pcmC3D0c pcmC3D5c controlC2 hwC2D0 midiC0D2 midiC1D4 midiC2D6 pcmC0D0 pcmC0D4p pcmC1D1p pcmC1D6p pcmC2D3p pcmC3D0p pcmC3D5p controlC3 hwC2D1 midiC0D3 midiC1D5 midiC2D7 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D5c pcmC1D2c pcmC1D7c pcmC2D4c pcmC3D1c pcmC3D6c hwC0D0 hwC2D2 midiC0D4 midiC1D6 midiC3D0 pcmC0D0p pcmC0D5p pcmC1D2p pcmC1D7p pcmC2D4p pcmC3D1p pcmC3D6p hwC0D1 hwC2D3 midiC0D5 midiC1D7 midiC3D1 pcmC0D1c pcmC0D6c pcmC1D3c pcmC2D0c pcmC2D5c pcmC3D2c pcmC3D7c hwC0D2 hwC3D0 midiC0D6 midiC2D0 midiC3D2 pcmC0D1p pcmC0D6p pcmC1D3p pcmC2D0p pcmC2D5p pcmC3D2p pcmC3D7p hwC0D3 hwC3D1 midiC0D7 midiC2D1 midiC3D3 pcmC0D2c pcmC0D7c pcmC1D4c pcmC2D1c pcmC2D6c pcmC3D3c seq hwC1D0 hwC3D2 midiC1D0 midiC2D2 midiC3D4 pcmC0D2p pcmC0D7p pcmC1D4p pcmC2D1p pcmC2D6p pcmC3D3p timer hwC1D1 hwC3D3 midiC1D1 midiC2D3 midiC3D5 pcmC0D3c pcmC1D0c pcmC1D5c pcmC2D2c pcmC2D7c pcmC3D4c
CPU ------------------------------------------------------- model name : Pentium MMX cpu MHz : 199.435
RAM ------------------------------------------------------- MemTotal: 62080 kB SwapTotal: 243892 kB
Hardware -------------------------------------------------- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 430HX - 82439HX TXC [Triton II] (rev 03) 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] (rev 01)
A little histoy
I tried to get the onboard CS chip working, the kernel recognised it and all seemed well, but no sound.
I then installed a cheap soundblaster card
now when I try a dpkg -i on the alsa deb I get
sarge:/usr/src# dpkg -D2000 -i alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3_1.0.3-1+custom3_i386.deb (Reading database ... 37622 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3 1.0.3-1+custom3 (using alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3_1.0.3-1+custom3_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3 ... D002000: process_archive info this pkg D002000: process_archive info this pkg D002000: process_archive info this pkg D002000: process_archive info this pkg Setting up alsa-modules-2.4.25alsa3 (1.0.3-1+custom3) ... Configuration file for ALSA 1.0 exists. Attempting to start.
Storing ALSA mixer settings ... failed Shutting down ALSA (version 1.0.3): done. Starting ALSA (version 1.0.3): cs46xx-failed ens1370-failed failed
Note the lack of information?
The log traces are similarily not very verbose
ANy ideas on what to try next?
Help appreciated
Brian
Have you tried a 2.6.x kernel? It is designed to work with ALSA.
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Subject: Re: AMD vs. Intel From: Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:14:21 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thursday 08 April 2004 03:52, Christian Schnobrich wrote:
/rant on
I should have said this in my first reply. It's common knowedge that AMD based systems has, compared to Intel based systems, a reputation of sometimes being unstable. No one ever bothers to explain why.
[...]
The same sources as above (hearsay alarm!) suggested not actually the CPU as a reason, but rather the policy regarding boards.
That was exactly my point. The fact that there are AMD based machines out there that run stably under heavy load for months on end, means that the chips must be OK.
My machine at home is a 2400+ AthlonXP which runs on a VIA KT133A chipset - which I wouldn't describe as the best chipset ever for Athlons. BUT: It's a Gigabyte board, which I would like to believe is good product. I've had it for a year and a half. It runs Setiathome, acts as a gateway and mailserver, squid proxy and a host of other things that puts strain on resources. I've only ever had to restart this machine when I added hardware, it's never been unstable for a second.
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