I have been running almost exclusively NVidia for quite some time.  The only board I 
have ever had any problems with the proprietary NVIDIA drivers on a are the ASUS 
nforce boards *which specifically state* not to use the NVidia drivers.  There is some 
kind of incompatability with the AGP port, and to be honest I haven't given it a lot 
of effort beyond BIOS tweaking since the nv driver was fine for that application... 
speaking of which,

How is the ATI xfree driver any better than the NV xfree driver?  They both seem to 
work about the same for me.  I like the NVIDIA proprietary driver on my laptops 
because I get advanced features like TwinView, which I use *all the time* without ANY 
problems what-so-ever.  Also, I have run the NVIDIA proprietary drivers on many 
different systems, RH 
7.0,7.3,8.0,9.0/Gentoo-non-specific-always-updating-in-a-nasty-bleeding-edge-kindof-way/and
 Debian Sarge,Sid.  I've used kernel versions 2.4.18/22/23/25 and 2.6.1/3, all without 
ANY problems, save the ASUS board above.  I use VMWare every single day running 
several different OSs and on most of the above types from time to time, including in 
full screen mode, and the NVIDIA board/driver handles it all quite easily.

I'm not trying to start a flame war on how Companies should choose to or not to 
support open source projects, but since I use their product a LOT and I have had 
dramatically different experience from what is being portrayed I figured I should give 
the counter point.  In fairness, I have not even attempted to try and get an ATI board 
to provide the advanced services that I get out of the NVIDIA drivers.  That is most 
likely because I'm a lazy bastard and if someone like NVIDIA has excellent 
documentation and their product works - even when they say it might not because they 
haven't tested it in that environment - and I would have to hunt for docs on another 
product and hope they are up-to-date, I probably won't bother.

Cheers.

--JATF

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:39 PM
To: Frédéric Dreier
Cc: Steve Freitas; Gokul Poduval; Debian Users
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver


Frédéric Dreier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>>Steve Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>>>How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide
>>>>binary drivers, and nvidia was at this game much earlier than ati.
>>>>
>>> I had nothing but bad experience with Nvidia's binary drivers. They
>>> kept locking up my machine completely. The open-source alternative,
>>> XFree86's nv driver, is completely pathetic. The XFree86 Radeon
>>> driver, on the other hand, has performed so beautifully for me that
>>> I never felt the need to try their binary driver. YMMV.
>>
>>Steve Freitas is now my definition for typical case for an nVidia user
>>these days.
>>
> Actually I have more 'diffcult' experience with ATI than nvidia... the
> last time I checked, framebuffer still hangs when I switch from X to
> consoles with my ATI 9700.

Your point?  Even Linus tells people not to use framebuffer for
anything unless they have to.

-- 
Paul Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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