> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are
> not welcome
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 11:20:24PM -0500, Sean Donnelly wrote:
> > P.S. - This is also an opinion (so feel free to disagree, but
> please don't
> > call the FBI on me) but I believe that the concentric circles behind Bin
> > Lauden represent a bulls eye. If this is the case then it
> should now meet
> > your standards (as if it mattered in the first place)
>
> An alternate explanation is it is intended for the Malaysian market.
> The only other reference to 'sunbeamtech and "bin laden"' on google
> indicates it is not sold in the UK.
>
> Please do not pretend there is no market for such things.
>
> > Even if this badge were pro bin lauden (which I do not believe
> to be true)
> > it creates no danger. Simply having a radical opinion is not
> grounds to call
> > the FBI.
>
> Well, I feel squirrelly about my decision as well.  It struck me very
> much as something one would do in a totalitian state, very Orwellian.
>
> However, I wrote the company and told them what I did.  If there is
> nothing wrong going on, all will be quickly forgotten as just another
> wierd thing that happened.  If there is some criminal activity occuring,
> then I did the right thing.  If there is no criminal activity but merely
> some gallows humor, then PLONKING them publicly serves a purpose.  If
> it's intended to be a target, then I'm full of shit.
>
> My chinese friends tell me the word on the street in Shanghai (videos of
> WTC with rap songs behind them) and I hear of the Malaysian PM's
> comments and I read of the general tenor of the Islamic Asian countries,
> and I feel confident that shit needs to be stirred up.
>
> It's worth it.


Sorry to jump down your throat. I just feel that a lot of the rights that I
have taken for granted for many years now, are now being infringed upon by
people who have good intentions. I just don't want to wake up one day and
realize that in our quest for security and protection we have sacrificed our
own freedom. Do we expose ourselves to harm by allowing people to move
around freely? sure as Sh-t we do. But what is the alternative? We walk a
slippery slope and I believe we have lost our footing. We have hit a point
where simply disagreeing with the president is deemed unpatriotic.

Again, I'm sorry to attack you. I know you wanted to do the right thing and
I can't hold that against someone, at least not after calming down :). I'm
just afraid that one day in the future we are all going to feel a little
squirrelly and its going to be too dam late to do anything about it.

"Those who would sacrifice their essential liberty to gain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
 -Ben Franklin

//steps down off soap box for second time :(


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