On Tue, 28 Apr 2026, at 23:57, David Wright wrote:

> Who knows? I don't—sorry.

TY for your help. I've taken part of Andy Smith's advice & emailed 

 [email protected]

& included info from Firefox's page-specific console (when I tried to
reload the  https://lists.debian.org/  page). The info shows both the
request & response headers; and cookie values.

I do think that - a couple of times - when I've clicked the reload
button I've briefly seen the word "Challenge" appear before the
"Forbidden" page appears.  But if there's a page with some sort of
human-do-able challenge ...? why am I not seeing it in full?   The
request headers (for:  https://lists.debian.org/  ) include

 Referer: https://lists.debian.org/challenge.html?original=%2f 
 
 
I've not installed any extension which might or might not allow me to 
alter the User-Agent string-- for four reasons: (1) I'd have no idea
what to change it to; (2) I don't want to break sessions with other
sites I use; (3) changing the UA wouldn't represent what other users
of FF do - it should work for every real person; (4) I really don't
like complicating things with possibly buggy extensions.     

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

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