On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 15:04:28 -0400 Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 2:49 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Fairly often, I see a reply to a message (on debian-user) but > > didn't see / receive the original post. > > > > This is an example. > > > > Any clues? I guess there could be a variety of causes, one might > > be that someone posted the original to a different list or directly > > to a person on the list and the reply was directed to the list. > > > > It's not an urgent matter, just something that has tugged at the > > back of my brain for a while. > > I've noticed the same thing as a GMail user. I often see folks on the > list reply to a message and I receive the reply before the original > message arrives in my Inbox. > > It seems like GMail stores some emails before forwarding them to the > next MTA or MUA. I guess -- and it is merely a guess -- GMail is > holding the message in a type of quarantine to classify the message > [as legitimate or spam]. May be other reasons. When I advised a small company on IT, I seemed to have trouble driving into peoples' heads that email is not guaranteed to be instant. The number of times, I said 'If you want instant, pick up the phone.' There was no SMS then, but there were faxes. The longest delay I ever saw was eight weeks, though to be fair, that was a major server failure. > > > On Tuesday, April 28, 2026 11:48:29 AM Felix Miata wrote: > > > CGS composed on 2026-04-28 14:59 (UTC): > > > > Is it just me, or has this mailing list died? > > > > > > I'm on lots of mailing lists besides this one. Traffic on most has > > > drastically fallen off in recent months and/or years. > > I think Felix's observation is a different one. I think GMail is > rejecting a lot more messages as spam using headers like DMARC, SPF, > and DKIM. It's a shame Google don't put as much effort into stopping spam and malware coming from its own accounts... -- Joe
