Notice date and time format in the next line.
On 08/01/2026 2:09 am, Davidson wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026, Max Nikulin wrote:
Some aspects of locales and timestamp formatting have been discussed
recently.
I have not been around here lately, and did not see that discussion.
An almost random post from that thread:
Andrew M.A. Cater. Re: locales design and timezone (was:
dpkg-reconfigure unable to change greeter locale) Sat, 27 Dec 2025
19:14:09 +0000.
<https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/[email protected]>
I'm running bullseye (which is currently oldoldstable).
[...]
carroll@funafuti:0 ~$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
[...]
carroll@funafuti:0 ~$ LANG=en_GB.utf8 LANGUAGE=en_US:en firefox-esr
./html/home.html
[...]
carroll@funafuti:0 ~$ LANG=en_US.utf8 LANGUAGE=en_US:en firefox-esr
./html/home.html
[...]
This is what I see when LANG=en_GB.utf8 [...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poop 06/01/2026, 13:14
[...]
And this is what I see when LANG=en_US.utf8 [...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poop 1/06/2026, 13:14
As you can see, apparently I have a 24-hour clock in either case.
Thank you for a data point.
I have realized that I have a VM with Debian 13 trixie and almost
default XFCE. I see the same 12h am/pm and the same priority of LANGUAGE
over LANG and LC_TIME for time formatting as on the host. So it should
not be KDE specific or caused by missing recommended packages.
It seems, order of variables in environment memory block does not matter.
A have not noticed differences in Debian patches for Firefox-140 in
bookworm and trixie.
My current hypothesis is that something has been changed in Gtk. I have
not noticed anything related to 12h vs 24h in my ~/.config/gtk*. There
is a little chance that the issue caused by some uninitialized value in
the code.
I have realized that thunderbird citation header may be a more
convenient entry point since I know rather unique keyword to search for.
"History" or "language" might be too generic. So far I have traced
called functions to
<https://searchfox.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/intl/locale/gtk/OSPreferences_gtk.cpp>
that has some interesting comments. I plan to continue later.
