Hi, On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 11:14:51AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 12/12/2025 21:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > *BY DEFAULT* you have no human-readable log files, meaning you > > cannot read them with a comfortable and familiar command line > > interface, nor can you read them by mounting the (partially failed?) > > disk in a different system for post mortem analysis, and so on. > > I admit I have not had an accident requiring real postmortem analysis so > far, but is it a real problem?
I hesitate to comment because this thread just seems so confrontational that anything can be interpreted as carrying the flag of one army or another, but… …no, I personally do not see it as an issue because for more than a decade the "journalctl" binary has been able to read journal files from an arbitrary filesystem path so all you need is a copy of the files. A journald process does not actually need to be running. Thanks, Andy (Mostly not a journald user, but this facet had no bearing on that choice) -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
