On Fri, 31 Oct 2025, [email protected] wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 04:23:46PM +0000, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2025, Nicolas George wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] (HE12025-10-31):
>>>> i run a command preceded by time and pipe it to mail
>>>> the results of time is not included in the mail
>>>>
>>>> time sleep 2 2>&1 | mail -s foo bar@localhost
>>>
>>> Try this:
>>>
>>> time sleep 3 | sleep 10
>>>
>>> … observe carefully the output and deduce something important about
>>> time.
>>>
>>
>> that's easy
>> the electrons are moving near the speed of light
>> so time slows down :)
>
> The electrons move actually pretty slowly. It's the electrical field
> what moves quickly.
>
> Let's assume copper, at a density of 8.9 g/cm^3, and an atomic weight
> of 63.5: 1mm^3 of copper has 6.02*10^23 * 8.9 * 10^-3 * (1/63.5) atoms,
> i.e. 8.44 * 10^19 atoms, each contributing one electron to the conduction
> band (the last lone S1). At 1.6 * 10^-19 C, that makes 13.5C of charge
> available for conduction in each mm^3, which is a friggin' lot.
>
> If you push 1A across a wire with a cross section of 1mm^2, your
> electrons would be moving at 1/13.5 mm/s, i.e. 0.074 mm/s: I can
> hear the snails in my garden yawning :)
>
> I might have lost an order of magnitude here or there, but the kind
> of result is somewhat consistent with the dim memories I have from a
> former life...

i worked maintenance in a factory so i can't argue with any of that
but please clarify
is this 0.074 mm/s along the length of the conductor
what about moving in other directions
how far does an electron actually travel in one second

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