On 2025-07-11 at 09:06, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

> On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 8:10 PM BST, Dan Ritter wrote:

>> The web interface is exactly the same as the mailing lists, which
>> are exactly the same as the newsgroups, which also produces an
>> ATOM/RSS feed and an IRC bot. Any access reads and, if possible,
>> posts to the same streams of messages.
> 
> I think something like this -- which presents/repurposes an existing
> community -- is likely the best way forward. I think GNU Mailman 3
> in theory can do something similar, but I haven't seen many instances
> of that (and the sites I am aware of using Mailman 2 are reluctant to
> move to 3. Debian does not use Mailman.)

While this may be the least bad of the available options, it is still a
bad option.

The reason is that in the large majority of cases, what constitutes good
posting behavior (and, specifically, good *quoting* behavior) on a Web
forum vs. in E-mail is *different*. (Newsgroups are functionally similar
to mailing lists in this regard.)

If you quote in patterns that are appropriate for the Web-forum
interface, you will likely be underquoting for the mailing list. If you
quote in patterns that are appropriate for the mailing list, you will
likely be overquoting for the Web-forum interface.

I am not aware of any potential solution for this that has seemed to me
as if it would actually be viable.

If I'm missing any that would, or if I'm wrong and some of the ones I've
dismissed as non-viable actually would be viable, I would be *actively
glad* about that.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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