On 6/6/25 12:50, Eben King wrote:


On 6/3/25 16:27, gene heskett wrote:
I'm using tbird 139, and it has grown vertically to expect the full screen of 1040 lines, meaning the bottom 2 tect lines that tbird uses for advirory msgs of attachment showing, are covered by the pager list and other such things at the bottom of my workspace.

How do I shrink that vertical back a couple text lines so I can see and click on such as an attached file? Horizontal works, but I am unable to move it up to where the mouse can grab the lower edge and move it. So surely there must be a config someplace that is editable. Using xfce4. Thank you.

In XFCE there is Settings > Workspace > Margins.  Maybe that'll do what you want?  That only controls how "Maximize" works and where automatic placement goes, you can still resize/place windows anywhere you want, even off screen.
The fly in that soup is that although I thought I''ve installed xfce4 as a task, htop does not find anything xfce4 listed as running.  AND all the fetch this and that stuff that has been listed in this thread, supposedly made to tell what is runnin, are not installed to even be run. So I'm obviously confused as to just what the heck I am using. htop does find some xdg stuffs.  This whole bookworm install has been a CF from the gitgo.  I am a/o half an hour ago, uptodate on about 40 installs trying to get rid of orca and brltty which are installed by default.  I am hoping that trixie will be better, if and when its released.  I have 4 more machines here still running linuxcnc on wheezy because of my bookworm experience. Thank you Eben King

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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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