On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 8:27 AM Jan Claeys <li...@janc.be> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2025-04-15 at 20:47 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> > Jan Claeys <li...@janc.be> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2025-04-06 at 17:42 +0300, Serkan Kurt wrote:
> > > > Hello. A USBA (ss) wireless mouse is connected to the laptop.
> > > > When I connect a WD Element 1 TB or WD Element 4 TB external disk
> > > > to the other USBA (ss) port, the working distance of the mouse
> > > > drops to about 0.5 meters. Normally 10 meters. The laptop has 2
> > > > USBA (ss) ports. The two ports are side by side. Could there be a
> > > > hardware problem? Do you have any suggestions for solving the
> > > > problem?
> > >
> > > This is a well-known problem: USB 3 high-speed connections (such as
> > > you would typically have with USB mass storage devices) can cause
> > > electromagnetic interference to wireless devices that operate in
> > > the 2.4 GHz frequency bands.
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Radio_frequency_interference
> >
> > The article says that may be a problem with USB 3.0 devices. The
> > disks are USB 3.2. One hopes the early problems have been overcome by
> > now.
>
> The problem is because of the specific data rate (5 Gbit/s, and
> possibly also multiples of that?) creating electromagnetic interference
> in just the wrong frequency band for a lot of wireless devices (2.4-2.5
> GHz).  I doubt that can be overcome without significant (and possibly
> incompatible?) change to (some of) the USB protocols.  It definitely
> affects some USB 3.1 & 3.2 devices as well.
>
> The USB standards organisation even has a document about this problem:
> https://www.usb.org/document-library/usb-30-radio-frequency-interference-impact-24-ghz-wireless-devices
> (Link to the PDF is on the right.)
>
> You can try using a (better) shielded cable to connect the disk (some
> USB disks already come with a shielded cable).  But the interference
> can also “escape” from e.g. the USB port or controller, which is harder
> to replace or fix, of course.  It’s generally something the hardware
> manufacturers should have done better.
>
> What I would suggest is to move the wireless receiver away, either by
> plugging it in an USB port in another location (many computers have
> some in 2 or 3 locations), or by plugging it in an USB extension cable
> (with a plug on one side & a socket on the other side) or in an USB
> hub, so that the wireless receiver isn’t near the USB cable & ports
> used by the disk anymore.

A better cable may help, like one with a ferrite choke.
<https://www.amazon.com/usb-cable-ferrite-choke/s?k=usb+cable+with+ferrite+choke>.

Jeff

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