On Saturday, 28-12-2024 at 08:08 Frank McCormick wrote:
>
> I am running Trixie full updated.
> I have been having lockups quite often running Firefox under the latest
> kernel.
My wife has been experiencing Firefox lockups on Debian Bookworm (KDE Plasma
when using either Wayland or X11, we tested the issue on both).
Please read my below comments and let me know if there is any similarity, or if
you have been able to detect any pattern about how the issue occurs.
(lockup - Total non response from the PC, not even pressing the power button
for three seconds initiates a shutdown)
The lock ups were so annoying she have given up using Firefox, and now uses
Chromium.
The lockup usually occured when a web page changes, for example when new ad is
being automatically displayed, or opening a new page in a tab. Opening a page
can be to a page that can be opened without causing an issue, but this instance
of "opening" causes the PC to freeze.
The lockup can occur when she was not using the web page, but noticed the a web
page changing a displayed ad.
However even Chromium occasionally locks up (every two or three weeks).
She does have many, many tabs open at a time. If she keeps tabs down to less
than 10, the issue is less frequent (I think, hard to confirm).
I have wondered if the issue has to do with web pages. I think some ads (which
show randomly, based on the ad display systems) are badly coded, and cause some
kind of memory/process leak.
Another thought was a fault in the coding of the web browser?
After a reboot, the Ext4 partition has to be repaired, automatically by the
login process. My concern is if this happens too frequently, data on the disk
drive may become unrepairable, requiring a reinstallation of the OS.
I like the idea put forward of having a ssh connection open. But I would need
to start the ssh session from another PC every day we start her PC, just
waiting for the one time it locks up.
Each time the PC is locked up, my wife asks me to come and look at it (if I am
home at the time), and one time I was delayed coming, by the time I came, the
PC started responding normally. This has only happened the once, and since then
I have tried waiting for a while but her PC never started working again by
itself.
It is challenging to fault find as there is never a time that web browsers are
not loaded, even when she is playing games. And the issue occurs very
infrequently.
I have also experienced the issue of lockups on my PC (Bookworm and XFCE), but
so infrequently, as in once or twice a year. I usually have less that 10 pages
loaded at a time, and most of my web pages have static ads that are not
automatically updated. I usually close off web pages once having read and saved
any information I was looking for. I might play games for a short time once or
twice a week? So very different usage.
I do have a Debian Trixie KDE Plasma PC I occasionally use, and again I would
normally use Firefox but have not experienced lock ups on it. I might keep it
running for a number of days to see what happens? But that is a lot of power
wasted just waiting for an issue and because I would not be actively using it,
it is likely not to lock up.
Hardware types could be a contributor, but there would be so many different
hardware combinations. Like snowflakes, no two PCs are the same (lol).
George.
> The lockups are complete, even REISUB doesn't work - the computer is
> completely unresponsive.
> I have gone back to the previous kernel and things run smoothly.
>
> This is inxi -F
>
> System: Host: franklin Kernel: 6.11.10-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
> Desktop: IceWM v: 3.2.3.2
> Distro: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid Machine: Type: Desktop System:
> LENOVO product: 5536E2F v: ThinkCentre M90p serial: <superuser
> required> Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: <superuser required> BIOS:
> LENOVO v: 5JKT47AUS date: 07/13/2010
> CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5 660 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
> cache: L2: 512 KiB Speed (MHz): avg: 1197 min/max: 1197/3326
> cores: 1: 1197 2: 1197 3: 1197 4: 1197 Graphics: Device-1: Intel
> Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel Display: x11
> server: X.Org v: 21.1.15 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded:
> fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: EGL
> v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
> API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 2.1 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.2.8-1
> renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics (ILK) Audio: Device-1: Intel 5
> Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
> API: ALSA v: k6.11.10-amd64 status: kernel-api Server-1: PipeWire v:
> 1.2.7 status: active Network: Device-1: Intel 82578DM Gigabit Network
> driver: e1000e IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac:
> 44:87:fc:d8:3b:53 Drives: Local Storage: total: 912.89 GiB used: 62.23
> GiB (6.8%)
> ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB
> ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size: 465.76 GiB
> type: USB Partition:
> ID-1: / size: 228.61 GiB used: 8.65 GiB (3.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
> Swap: Alert: No swap data was found.
> Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds
> (rpm): N/A Info:
> Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est. available: 7.44 GiB used: 1.13 GiB
> (15.2%) Processes: 177
> Uptime: 33m
> Shell: Bash
> inxi: 3.3.36
>
>
> I am at a loss to debug this. Has anyone else reported problems with
> 6.12.6 ?
>
>
> --
> Frank McCormick
>
>
