On Tue 17 Dec 2024 at 13:44:22 (-0600), John Hasler wrote:
> Peter Hillier-Brook writes:
> > the nonsense about about not changing them ignores the obvious.
> 
> What is that?
> 
> > My bank performs security checks by requesting a sub-set of my
> > password. It doesn't take a genius to work out that after
> > several visits the complete password can be deduced.

> Sounds like a reason to find a new bank, in the meantime changing your
> password after every such request.  Surely they can't be hashing the
> passwords properly if that practice is of any use.

I don't know which bank this is meant to be, nor whether "visit"
includes visiting a branch in person (which seems unlikely).

But I will point out that for Lloyds Bank at least, the subset
requested is of your "memorable information", not your password.
This challenge comes only /after/ the username and password have
been correctly entered, and is followed by yet another factor,
a random code number delivered by a phone call.

As you have to select the subset from some listboxes with a mouse,
I would guess that the step is designed to defeat key-logging.

Cheers,
David.

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