On 12/14/24 00:52, David Christensen wrote:
On 12/13/24 12:50, gene heskett wrote:
I bought two new 2T Seagates to install bookworm on, spent a week
copying almost 26 years worth of my personal history to them, 2 weeks
later both of them died, going off line in the middle of the night,
so I lost stuff that went back to Feb. 98. So that started my saga
with bookworm which has been the 5th great disappointment in my life.
I see some references to the drive failures in the debian-user mailing
list archives:
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=debian-user%40lists.debian.org&q=heskett+seagate+2T&x=0&y=0
Have you contacted Seagate to see if the drives are eligible for
Rescue Data Recovery Services?
https://www.seagate.com/products/rescue-data-recovery/
Screw seagate with a hot branding iron., they used the marketplace to
test a tech that wasn't ready for prime time and likely never will be.
In my employment history I learned a thing or two about helium as I
probably tested the pressure regulatores that gave John Glenn his first
rides, primarily that man has no material that will contain it, the
molecule is so small it walks right thru 2" of monel metal, about 10% of
it a day.. Seagate filled those drives with helium because it allows the
head to fly closeer to the disk, but a month later the helium was gone.
Then it turned out they were shingled, meaning the tracks were partially
overlapped. They used me for a lab rat and I damned sure didn't
appreciate that, not when it was my $250. Seagate will never again get
a penny from me. Over the next year every spinning rust but 1 in my
machine tools died and was replaced with SSD's. Today I have 1 256Gig
spinning rust drive remaining, that seems to have been the magic number
for long life as it now nearly 100k spinning hours on it and still
running fine. But I've since found Chinese SSD's seem to fail at higher
rates, so the last batch I hve bought are taiwanese with 5 of their 4T
drives being tested to see if they'll serve as a backup server running
amanda, no indications of failures have surfaced so far in nearly a
year. Sone gigastones, some Silicon Power are powered up but mostly
idle, all 2T's. So far, so good, o;der Samsungs .5T's are 4 years old
and in the far side of the bathtub for failures already. Probably more
than you wanted to know. The nand gate models seem to die faster. I
won't buy any more of them. Older, smaller kingston and adata seem to
last forever. It doessn't take a huge drive to run a machine tool with
linuxcnc. I have two smaller ones on a rpi4, been running a devel
systen and a 85 yo 11x56 Sheldon lathe for oveer a decade, zip problems
except the usb-sata adapters, put in a startech, drive was fine.. Was a
pi3 originally.
The first 4 were burying my first wife, and one at a time, the three
children she gave me.
That's old history now. 1st had a killer stroke at 34, 2nd (17 years,
came with 3 of jerry's kids, md, made 3 more boys) has passed, and
3rd (31 years has passed from COPD. Now I'm just an old fart,
puttering around alone in a 3 bedroom ranchette.
You have my condolences.
Thank you.
David
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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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