On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 10:36:28AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> 
> On 12/13/24 09:50, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > On 13/12/2024 13:37, gene heskett wrote:
> > > 
> > > IMNSHO the installer is busted. But mentioning that was a no-no.
> > 
> > Have you tried to explain your issue to installer developers in a
> > *polite* and *constructive* way? Please, post a link to prove it.
> > 
> You've built a wall around your developers that is light tight. I've got a
> tenner that says they've never seen my complaints. You purposely have made
> it quite difficult to file a bug report, IDK if mine ever got past your
> guardian angels. I did try. I am a many year subscriber to this list. Debian
> has put up road blocks that deflect most attempts to file a report at
> bugs.debian.org. Wrong dot on the i gets it rejected,  Maybe debian should
> start by fixing that batch of pot holes so we CAN file a bug report.
> 

Hey Gene,

Don't forget: there are Debian developers on this list. You're writing to
one.

People have tried to help you - and sometimes got the brush off.

I have done a few thousand Debian installs: unless I've actually wanted
to use Orca / espeak and a speech installer, I've never had the issues 
you have had.

Some Braille input devices rely on serial / USB -> serial input. It is
just possible that an install with serial cables enabled _might_ 
misidentify as a brltty.

Without error messages, the rest of us can do almost nothing except
guess. We've been asking for specifics from you for *years*

In the middle of your 30 installs I can remember corresponding with
you asking to simplify things - but no dice
.
The installer isn't necessarily broken - hundreds of people use it
every day/week/month - but something you have done at some point has
tripped an edge case, maybe. Without details / a reinstall we will
never, ever know. Complaints without substance to chase down are
just complaints.

As it is, the readers on the list are presented with an X-Y problem
pretty much every month from you.

All best, as ever, and stay well,

Andy Cater
(amaca...@debian.org)

> Do like the banks do when you've updated your browser, send a code number to
> our registered address to prove we are who we claim to be.  Its a pita about
> once a month if you keep your browser up to date, BUT IT WORKS.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> 
> -- 
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>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> 

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