​Hi,

What are the chances that when Debian Trixie is released it will
include packaged Nvidia proprietary 560 drivers (these drivers are
currently in beta) ?


Judging by my own experiences, Debian Bookworm and Trixie, is that the
currently packaged Nvidia proprietary drivers (535) do not support
Wayland or Steam 3D action games.


If I am incorrect please tell me which Debian package to install, and
in what circumstances the above is possible.


My guess is that Nvidia software development support for Wayland and
Linux is still changing, and whether that change is completed by the
time Trixie is frozen or released, I am not sure? I would assume (but
it is only a guess), that 1) Nvidia 560 drivers finally support Linux
Wayland and 3D gaming, and 2) once Nvidia 560 drivers are no longer in
beta, they will be updated into the current Debian stable packaged
Nvidia proprietary drivers. Am I correct ? Or way too hopeful?


My above assumptions are based on comments from the Internet, and my
testing as described below.


The Nvidia graphics card I am currently testing with is a GeForce RTX
2070. (on an Intel i5 2nd Gen CPU and motherboard, 1920x1080 display)


This PC is currently dual booting Debian Trixie KDE (with Debian
packaged Nvidia 535 drivers), and Fedora 21 Gnome since yesterday when
I installed Fedora 41 Gnome and then installed the "NVIDIA Linux
Graphics Driver" (rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver) from the "Sofware"
app.


With Debian Trixie KDE I can only log into KDE with X11, when I try to
log in with Wayland, the login fails and returns to the SDDM login
screen.


With Fedora 41 (running Nvidia 560 beta drivers), it is running
Wayland, and in Steam I can run the 3D game "Planet Crafter" smoothly
as I would on Windows. 



I found this quote, though about 6 months old, seems to explain the
same as I experience: "Nvidia 555 is the beta and plays pretty well
with wayland which provides explicit sync. I would recommend waiting
for 560 which should release next month or so.".


George.



Another useful post on the Internet "The easiest way is to run
xwininfo in a terminal - then when you hover over an xwayland window
the mouse pointer will turn into a + sign.".



Information:



# lspci -n -n -k | grep -A 2 -e VGA -e 3D
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation TU106
[GeForce RTX 2070 Rev. A] [10de:1f07] (rev a1)
    Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8784]
    Kernel driver in use: nvidia
$ glxinfo | grep -i vendor
server glx vendor string: SGI
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation


[Fedora 41]
$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  560.35.03  Fri Aug
16 21:39:15 UTC 2024
GCC version:  gcc version 14.2.1 20240912 (Red Hat 14.2.1-3) (GCC) 

[Debian KDE]
$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  535.183.06  Wed Jun
26 06:46:07 UTC 2024
GCC version:  gcc version 14.2.0 (Debian 14.2.0-8)
(after installing updates version went to ...535.216.01)


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Nvidia Beta drivers


https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/230225/en-us/
Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
Version:     560.28.03 BETA

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/224751/en-us/
Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
Version:     555.42.02 BETA
Release Date:     2024.5.21

GeForce RTX 20 Series:
GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER, GeForce RTX 2080, GeForce
RTX 2070 SUPER, GeForce RTX 2070, GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER, GeForce RTX
2060

---------------------------------------
Nvidia Production drivers for GeForce RTX 2070 | Linux 64-bit:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/



Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
Driver Version:550.135  Release Date:Tue Nov 19, 2024  File
Size:307.35 MB

Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
Driver Version:550.127.05  Release Date:Tue Oct 22, 2024  File
Size:307.14 MB

Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
Driver Version:535.216.01  Release Date:Tue Oct 22, 2024  File
Size:341.87 MB

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