Jim Higson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 13 Jan 2004 08:20:24 -0500, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Jim Higson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> I'm still having these problems, on my main machine, which has
> >> resisted XFree from the start.
> >> As sugested, I've updated the kernel to the prebuilt image 2.4.18-k7
> >> from the woody isos and confirmed the update with uname. It still
> >> won't recognise my usb mouse.
> >>
> >> The mouse in question is a logitech MX700. I find it hard to belive
> >> that the iso kernel builds do not support somthing as comon as a usb
> >> mouse, maybe there is another problem here? Google groups says nothing
> >> much about this mouse and debian [http://tinyurl.com/2tvzo] and in
> >> windows it works as a standard usb mouse.
> >
> > I have this mouse.  Just plug it into the PS/2 mouse port.  Are there
> > computers which have USB but not PS/2?  What is the big fuss about USB
> > mice?
> 
> A few motherboards don't have PS/2.
> 
> USB mice also have a much better refresh rate, IIRC serial mice have a
> refresh rate of only 35Hz or so, which is pretty unpleasent when
> you're used to
> 125Hz like the MX700 can do.

> Worse still, for gamers the frame rate is
> effectively limited by the mouse rate, there's no point in updating the
> screen 120 times per second when input is only recieved 35 times per
> second.

Ah OK, thanks.  I thought I'd ask why.

> I suppose it comes down to not wanting to use an OS if it doesn't let me
> snipe in quake! It might seem petty, but I bought the MX700
> specifically for
> games. I've got the mouse sorted now, but KDE is crashing the X
> server, I posted
> about this elsewhere in the thread.
> 
> > And do there exist _normal sized_ keyboards which use USB?  All
> > I've seen keyboard-wise is those tiny cramped jobs and the mega
> > "internet wireless console" jobs.
> 
> Sure. Most new keyboards I see use usb. I still use an aincient IBM
> model m with a
> din plug, but there are plenty of normal usb keyboards. If I bought a
> new keyboard
> now I'd expect it to be usb.

I haven't seen them.  I didn't see any at the recent computershow I
visited.  Moreover, I cannot seem to find them on the net.

For example, go to newegg.com and lookup USB keyboards.  I see about a
half dozen but they all have non-standard formats like extra rows of
buttons on the top and handrest that protrudes from the bottom.  I
have a keyboard holder on my desk and it will only accept normal, boring
rectangular format keyboards.  I also do not want a truncated or
compacted keyboard.  I can't find USB in the kind I'm looking for.

-- 
Johan KULLSTAM


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