Hi Thomas,

Same here, I am on GMX mailbox too, received a warning recently that I
will be unsubscribed forcibly because my e-mail provider GMX rejected
spam Debian list is sending towards me. LOL. Maybe Debian e-mail server
could improve filtering so I don't receive any spam in the first place?
It's so easy to spot this spam, IDK why server is not trained to
recognize typical spam words in these e-mails.

On 11/08/2024 12:51, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,

i just received a message from the list server that my mail provider
GMX has rejected a spam message which the Debian list allowed to pass
by a tiny not-spam margin.
 From this quite unsuspicious situation the automat of Debian Listmaster
Team derived the threat to unsubscribe me.

I see the potential for a bounce troll, like we had a few years ago.
(Whenever one of us posted to the list, the troll faked a bounce from
our mail providers.)

Do other experience the same ?

(I would propose that list server shall please refrain from
unsubscription threads if the mail in question gets a near-spam score in
the Debian list system.)


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Details:

The list server quotes a reply from the GMX mail servers.

   https://lists.debian.org/bounces/FVOZui8Ui2aBD+8obfofFQ
shows
   "For explanation visit
    
https://postmaster.gmx.net/de/case?c=r0701&i=ip&v=82.195.75.100&r=1MYcpl-1siPQU12EF-00K6HO";
   ...
   X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.9 required=4.0 ...,DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,...
   ...
   Received: from mail-wr1-x443.google.com ...
      by bendel.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2121E2049B
      for <debian-user@lists.debian.org>;
      Sun, 11 Aug 2024 10:21:41 +0000 (UTC)
   Received: by mail-wr1-x443.google.com ...
      for <debian-user@lists.debian.org>; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 03:21:41 -0700 (PDT)
   ...
   Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 11:21:27 -0700

The web says that DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12 from Spamassassin means that
the mail's Date is 6 to 12 hours in the future relative to the time it
was received.

My provider takes more offense:

   
https://postmaster.gmx.net/de/case?c=r0701&i=ip&v=82.195.75.100&r=1MYcpl-1siPQU12EF-00K6HO
   "Die Zeitangabe im Date-Header weicht zu stark von der tatsächlichen
    Zeit ab."
   = "The time stamp of the Date header deviates too much from the
      actual time."


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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