On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 08:00:06PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 22:17 -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > On 7/17/24 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: > > > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 > > > over X > > > desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It > > > frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that > > > creates a > PDF or just has a complicated link. It's annoying. > > I upgraded from Debian 10 to Debian 12.5 "Bookworm." The NVidia 390 > driver no longer works, so I had software rendering because nouveau > apparently can't do GPU rendering. Rather than crashing, the system > essentially froze. After waiting for a VERY long time, I would give up > and cycle power, with my reboot set up to start an empty session, not > the one I had going at time of the power cycle. I replaced the graphics > card with a Quadro K2200, which works with the nvidia-drivers package > that's still part of the Debian 12.5 distro. With GPU rendering, I no > longer have the problem. >
HOW did you upgrade? Did you go via 11? Did you purge all Nvidia drivers at that point? Nouveau works fairly well if there's no other trace of Nvidia on the system. Freezing is definitely a symptom of drivers fighting. > I can't do that with my old Dell Vostro 1700 because the NVidia > graphics chip is soldered to the motherboard, and it needs the 340 > driver, which is also no longer available. > If this is the Dell with dual chipsets - one Nvidia to do the heavy graphics, an Intel chipset for basics - like a bunch of gaming laptops you'd need to look at the Debian Nvidia pages for primus and so on. If it *just* has Nvidia - at this point, use Nouveau - stop trying to use Nvidia drivers on old hardware and that Dell is 2008 vintage? Software movces on - the very latest Nvidia drivers are "more free" but also incorporate entire RISC-V chipsets on board the latest cards. > I tried several of the methods discussed in this thread to get the > drivers working, but had no success. Maybe I was just holding my mouth > wrong. > See above. > > > > > > I have Firefox 115.13.0esr and it rarely crashes for me, and I have > > dozens > > of tabs open. I use straight XFCE, no Plasma. Could be it doesn't > > do PDFs > > well? I use Zathura to view PDFs. It's rather ... "feature free", > > so I may > > change. > > Also works for me under GNOME but my usage is light - I don't keep dozens of tabs open. All a moot point - we'll probably get 128.* soonest as that's the new ESR. All best, as ever, Andy Cater (amaca...@debian.org) > > Can you say what that site is? > > > > -- > > An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of > > being called an idea at all. -- Oscar Wilde > > >
