On 6/9/24 08:52, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o
dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom.

The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca".  It's a direct dependency.

hobbit:~$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Depends:
Depends: gnome-core (= 1:43+1), desktop-base, libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager, network-manager-gnome (>= 1.8), cheese (>= 3.38), 
file-roller (>= 3.38), gnome-calendar (>= 3.38), gnome-clocks (>= 3.38), gnome-color-manager (>= 3.36), gnome-maps (>= 3.38), 
gnome-music (>= 3.36), shotwell | gnome-photos (>= 3.36), gnome-weather (>= 3.36), orca (>= 3.38), rygel-playbin (>= 0.36), 
rygel-tracker (>= 0.36), simple-scan (>= 3.36), avahi-daemon, evolution (>= 3.36), gnome-sound-recorder, gnome-tweaks (>= 3.30), 
libgsf-bin, libreoffice-gnome, libreoffice-writer, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-impress, rhythmbox (>= 3.0), seahorse (>= 3.36), 
xdg-user-dirs-gtk, cups-pk-helper (>= 0.2), evolution-plugins (>= 3.36), gstreamer1.0-libav (>= 1.10), gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly (>= 
1.10), rhythmbox-plugins, rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder, totem-plugins

So I ran the above apt-cache show, writing it to /tmp/gnome-deps, then removed orca from that list and saved it over itself.

I am freshly rebooted, nothing is running but this tbird and ntpsec as this machine is a stratum 3 server to most of the other machines here. I have a few bash's running but no local network has been started so the system is relatively clean.

So I have a comma separated list of deps w/o orca, in /tmp/gnome-deps. whats next?


hobbit:~$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Depends: | grep -oP 'orca.*?,'
orca (>= 3.38),

I've spelled out for you step by step how to build your own replacement
for "gnome" which lacks this dependency.  You've ignored that.

Not totally, but studying the equiv docs (the README) is leaving me puzzled. Your list above, leaving out orca looks like a good starting point but is a lot of typing. I just had a lockup & had a 30 second lag like launching shotwell gives before the reset button even cleared the screen to start the reboot.

Others have suggested steps for disabling/reconfiguring orca without
removing it.  You haven't tried that path either.

That I finally figured out 9 months or so back up the log, so I didn't pursue it further.

You just keep repeating the same steps over and over and expecting a
different result.

.
Thanks Greg.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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