hw wrote: > On Mon, 2024-02-05 at 08:46 -0500, songbird wrote: >> hw wrote: >> ... >> > It's a badly missing feature from gnome settings that we can't change >> > the key bindings. The layout must be defined somewhere, though. >> > Maybe someone knows where that is? >> >> in MATE there's keyboard settings you can use to switch >> around keyboards and common keys being swapped. > > Does that work with wayland?
i'm using Debian testing, so whatever MATE is at in there in respect to wayland is where i'm at. i haven't intentionally prevented changes from happening, but i'm also not sure wayland is fully supported in MATE in testing right now. i think though that i run X11 still. > With a German keyboard, one of the keys I need to change is ~. > There's also ` when you get to do with databases, and a bunch of > others, like changing comma to dot and more that don't come to mind > atm. > > Have you ever entered ipv4 addresses (and floats) on a German > keyboard? It's insane. i had 3 weeks of German in college about 40 years ago. that's it other than Hogan's Heroes... so, the answer would be no. >> i don't use them now, but did in the past. likely GNOME has >> something similar but i haven't touched that desktop in quite a long >> time. > > Gnome has actually become usable about 2 years ago, though I miss > fvwm, and the lack of configurability with Gnome sucks badly. I'd > like KDE much better, but KDE has always been rather slow and too > buggy. When I tried KDE with wayland it didn't really work at all. > > The only alternative I know of is sway, but I don't get along with > tiling WMs. I like the idea; the problem is that they need to do > floating windows just as well, and they don't do that. > > I had fvwm configured so it would manage the windows for me instead of > having to manage them myself, including tiling, but as long there's > no wayland version of fvwm, we're stuck with KDE and Gnome ... > > Maybe give Gnome another try. It does have its advantages, and it > can't hurt to check it out. good luck. i don't have time or space to try GNOME out again. i went a long torturous route via GNOME, to KDE and back to GNOME for a short while and then disgusted at it went to MATE and have been mostly happy there. it is a consistent interface enough that it doesn't get in my way. that's what i wanted stability and those others kept destroying my efforts (or more accurately my lack of the desire to figure out a new method of doing the same thing without the interface making the wrong assumptions about what i wanted it to do (stay out of the way :) ))... > The additional keys on my 122 key keyboard help with Gnome (and other > things) a great deal. So if you want to get a kind of Model M, get > 122 keys. > > Who still makes 122 key keyboards except Unicomp? no idea. i'm content with 104. i rarely use odd keys. i have to retrain myself to use the number pad because it really is faster for when i'm editing numbers or doing data entry. songbird
