On Thu 25 Jan 2024 at 12:24:21 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 25 January 2024 09:03:36 am Anssi Saari wrote: > > On Tue 23 Jan 2024 at 06:32:54 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > > > On 1/23/24 06:12, Gremlin wrote: > > > > On 1/23/24 06:04, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > On 1/23/24 00:30, Karl Vogel wrote: > > > > > > > > On 1/22/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > G> How does an 8T backup server sound for another $200 in hdwe? > > > > > > Very > > > > > > G> enticing and I do have the sheckel's. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQJBSQL > > > > > > Seagate Desktop 8TB external Hard Drive, 3.5 Inch, USB 3.0 > > > > > > STGY8000400 > > > > > > $168.18 > > > > > > > > > > > > What if you buy two, use one for a complete backup and the other for > > > > > > incrementals or differentials? (I know, more than $200...) > > > > > > > > > > > My disastrous experience with the last pair of seagates > > > > > preclude exploring that path, ever again. I bought a couple > > > > > 2T's to replace 2 1T's I had outgrown and had close to 70,000 > > > > > spining hours on the. They lasted a bit less than 30 days, > > > > > dropping off the sata cables connecting then, never to be > > > > > found again. Then I find they were shingled tech, and helium > > > > > filled so the heads flew lower.
So the helium made the disks "drop off" the SATA cables? How does that work? > > > > https://www.howtogeek.com/803276/cmr-vs.-smr-hard-drives-whats-the-difference/ > > > > > > I carefully note, the use of Helium and its problems is very carefully > > > ignored. What's the connection between shingled disks and helium? > > Western Digital at least claims to have solved the leaking > > problem with helium and since they've been making those drives for over > > a decade, I think it's solved. When were these leakage incidents? I haven't heard about them; only Gene's wartime anecdotes about helium passing through inch-thick walls of Monel with impunity. > Your source for this? Indeed, for any of this. As for facts from the internet, I read this on one page selected at random — well, a top google hit: https://recoverysquad.com.au/what-are-the-advantages-of-helium-sealed-hard-drives/ "Helium HDDs as compared to standard HDDs Helium HDDs offer several advantages over traditional hard drives, including: [ … ] · Their lower power consumption translates into longer battery life for portable devices. ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ · And lastly, they generate less heat, which can be an issue with traditional HDDs. ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ [ … ] What are the challenges with Helium Hard Drives? The challenges with helium hard drives are that they are expensive to produce and they have a limited lifespan. The drives tend to run a bit hotter than traditional hard drives, and they also use more power." ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ WTF? Cheers, David.
